i prefer to snipe from the sidelines but if he quotes me ill engage for a few posts then not think about him until i see another stupid post and repeat.

if i truly wanted to live life with blinders on i wouldnt be on d2jsp at all and would only post on blacksmithing or gardening forums.

Amazing how the security risk goes from 'they were making it up!' to 'they knew it was a risk!' in a matter of minutes.

-It didnt start off that way.
-There shouldn't be a security risk for speaking on campus.
-The low IQ leftists who threaten, attack and try to shut down the events are the bad guys in that situation, regardless of if the speaker knew it could be a risk.
-Campuses should not be shutting down speech

The solution is not to back down and end all speaking events at college campuses.

I didn't 'get played'. I am well aware their events at predominantly left wing universities were good for promotion. I don't have a problem with people profiting off of their opposition being embarrassing lunatics against free speech.

Instead of admitting you are a fool who was wrong you try to pretend I worship them and am 'mad'. A sad deflection, detached from reality. Can't compete intellectually so you make stuff up and deflect. Poor character.

A campus that cancels an event isn't shutting down speech. There's a difference between stopping speech and refusing to platform speech. If I tell you to leave my house that's not shutting down speech since you can still say whatever. Just not in my house. Same with asking or protesting for administrators of a school to cancel an event.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 2 2021 09:54am

Public universities are not the same thing as someone's private property.

Yes violently protesting and interrupting events to shut down speech is in fact shutting down speech and a form of censorship.

but.... Jan 6 is not an interruption and/or NOT a attempt to censor the gov't?
How does your logic pan out on this one.

i'd describe an elaborate dog and pony show where people march into verbal gunfire then act shocked when they expected that result to be "making it up".

i think when people are far less than honest for their own profit, then overplay the results in a perpetual state of false victimhood they knew would befall them as "making it up".

u can act meta, and claim that not only did u know the results, but that you're ok with disingenuous profiteering as long as it makes ur enemies look bad, and also that you're ok with lying as long as it gets you more strange bedfellows against said enemies, but that just makes u icky. something, unlike Berkley shutting down speeches, no one is surprised by.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 2 2021 10:12am

Yes lets radically redefine words in order to salvage any bit of a point we can and ignore the rest

Real and actual threats are really just 'made up' if you don't like that they profited from their speaking events and exposed the SJW left's bad behavior and ridiculous ideology.
Great standard there.

Nah it's fine. I'll take the hit and say that we ought to fight against the platforming of antidemocratic, anti-free speech, authoritarians.

That old paradox of tolerance.

A democratic system cannot survive when the majority want to vote out democracy.
Free speech cannot survive if the majority use it to advocate it's abolition.

Thankfully your sort are not the majority. Deplatforming is one way to help keep things that way.

Thank god for freedom and democracy loving leftists.

Finally a shred of honesty. Thanks for conceding the points snipa wants to dishonestly pretend are valid.

bad news for you, freakshow delusional leftists aren't the majority either.

Openly against free speech and property rights = "freedom loving leftists'
pretending milquetoast conservatives are trying to abolish freedom of speech, when you are literally the one against free speech.
wewlad the delusions are strong.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jun 2 2021 10:32am

i like how you weave between calling ANTIFA unintimidating weirdos when u have mugshots, a threat to america when they throw a pepsi can, and a legitimate threat to safety despite being present at thousands of speaking events and never having attacked a speaker (afaik).

even more funny that u support private security as an alternative to police but also seem to think they cant protect speakers adequately so the Proud Boys counter protesters are justified.

Speakers wanted to save on security, outsourced it to patreon simps with false narratives, and Universities were understandably not willing to let a mob enter their campus with no legal liability tying them to the event which invariably went violent.

Shapiro got smart, hired private security, and kept a sense of legitimacy and his speaking engagements. Cucks like Gavin and Milo tried to fan flames then cried when they got burned. both are now relegated to doing bitchute videos on alt media and a string of LOOK AT ME stunts to remain relevant while Ben has an emerging media company that's highly successful on all mainstream media platforms other than a few demonetization hiccups which actually make him more money in the macro.

your entire argument boils down to "well i didnt get fooled, so they didnt make it all up". unsurprisingly gross.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 2 2021 10:32am