why you gota be such a racist about it?

Then I don’t understand your point. If something is returned to you it is not a sacrifice. Seems to me that you’re saying even though Jesus was whipped beaten beyond recognition and tortured in Hell it’s not a sacrifice because he was resurrected. Not to mention the shame associated with those sins.
If an innocent man is willingly sent to prison for 5 years to spare a loved one from that sentence and is beaten raped etc then released from prison, I guess you would say that’s no sacrifice....after all he was released.

jesus was flesh, his flesh could be attacked and cause him pain. after his resurrection he is beyond this type of pain. i dont mean join in a poetic sense, i mean in a magic powers sense.

jesus the man felt the pain of the lash, jesus before he came to earth in heaven was beyond such pains. god sending him to earth at all is sacrifice, as earth compared to heaven is torture, just as hell compared to earth is torture.

but on earth, or in hell, there's no reason to expect jesus the man was an omnipotent god unable to feel suffering.

in any case you've chosen the wrong contradiction, if heaven is so wonderful that it washes away the pain of say a 2 year old who withers from cancer, then why is Jesus's pain and sacrifice so meaningful? is it simply that he came to earth when he didnt need to? and if so why is that such a great sacrifice, as its hardly a blink of time for an eternal being.

I see both as valid counter-points to the sacrifice being meaningful.

Even if we accept it's painful, it doesn't really matter. Jesus is God. God feeling pain is basically meaningless. It isn't like a human feeling pain. God in his infinite capacity also has the capacity to fully understand and realize the feeling of pain before experiencing it. It's not like us, where we would have to feel it to have a full grasp of the experience. Same with hell, or any experience. So God didn't make a meaningful sacrifice by being tortured, by going to hell, or anything. It's already fully within his realm of understanding.

how was this post racist in pointing out that jesus wasnt whtie yet is depicted in a lot of churches in the US as white.

so going to hell for god isn't painful? and time exists in hell?

what source is there for that? scripture?

how come your the only one focused on his race?

You have to take into consideration that it's the spirit of life or the soul. Nearly all religions accept the concept of ghosts, spirits and death interacting w/ life.
Jesus was omnipotent, the flesh was housing his omnipotency though Jesus required the flesh of a pure blood line to make his works manifest


"Is the pot-maker the same as the clay? Should what is made say to its maker, “He did not make me”?

Man is the "pot" God is the pot maker. Take it symbolically & into the scientific perspective then it would mean man has similiar dna structure to weed revealing the fact Plant based diets and medicine are part of man's natural origin further proving the bible, gospel, holy ghost, jesus christ, YHWH as true:

https://www.melixgx.com/blogs/news/humans-share-40-of-our-genome-with-cannabis-plants

This post was edited by lodd222 on Apr 6 2021 12:53pm

An innocent man has a finite life span. God does not.

A God cannot be tortured, no matter what form it takes. A God who incarnates into a mortal form feeling mortal pain is not feeling pain the same way we are. We are finite beings with only our bodies as reference. A God taking this form is still an infinite being with an infinite pain capacity.

So God did not lose anything, because Jesus is God. You can't lose yourself.
God did not feel a meaningful pain, since that's impossible for a deity
God did not spend a meaningful amount of time as a mortal or in hell, since a finite amount of time against an infinite existence is always insignificant.



Doesn't matter lol

God feeling pain is immaterial. He's God.

If there is no time in hell then Jesus is still there. That's how time not existing works.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 6 2021 12:54pm

There is no way for you to know how God experiences pain. There is nowhere in the Bible that tells us that God experiences pain so that he can understand pain. These are a bunch of unbiblical assumptions on your part. God did not send Jesus to die on the cross so he can understand pain. God sent Jesus to die on the cross because he loved us and didn’t want us to understand the pain that is in hell and one day the lake of fire.