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Feb 7 2021 07:37am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 6 2021 01:22pm)
It always confuses me that the primary duty of Congress is to craft and modify legislation, yet FEWER than half have a Law degree of any form.

Cortez, for instance, has a bachelor in arts. What does this matter when crafting legislation? Oh, right, it doesn't.

If you want to talk about people qualified for the job, there are something like 168 representatives (out of 435) and 57 senators (out of 100) who meet what should be the "minimum educational requirements" for the position.

But then again, how many of those without the formal degree have served for other senators and reps or have other non-formal experience in legal matters? Dunno!

And there's the point. If you want to talk shit about a freshman representative from who gives a fuck, by all means. If you want to act like it matters, don't expect to be taken seriously.


Nor SHOULD they have to possess a law degree. They're supposed to be citizen legislators pulled from all walks of life, so as to represent the whole of us. That's why they have committees, public comment, and expert testimony when crafting legislation - because sometimes the farmer knows more about farm policy than a lawyer does.
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Feb 7 2021 07:50am
Quote (Santara @ 7 Feb 2021 05:37)
Nor SHOULD they have to possess a law degree. They're supposed to be citizen legislators pulled from all walks of life, so as to represent the whole of us. That's why they have committees, public comment, and expert testimony when crafting legislation - because sometimes the farmer knows more about farm policy than a lawyer does.


And that is the precise argument for why Boebert IS the perfect representative, now isn't it? Just a GED? Well, that represents 42% of her state. Small business owner? Hell, that represents 30.2 million Americans. 2A supporter? Majority of Americans represented. Believes there was irregularities and/or fraud that influenced the 2020 election? 40% of the population covered there as well.

Frankly though, I 100% disagree with your assessment. Our representative and senators are our LEGAL representatives in the Federal Government. They aren't there just to represent our views or opinions. They're there to fight for our rights, views, and opinions in the LAW. A person with no legal background cannot effectively defend your legal rights, now can they? When you go to court, are you being "represented" by a farmer, or by a lawyer?

The point of Public Comment, testimonies, and committees is to determine from the experts of non-legal fields what the legal field should be doing.

Again, the stance that those who're unqualified to write or even understand law should be the people who are our representatives in the legislative branch are why nearly all laws and regulation passed are written by a select few within the Congress. It's also why laws are passed (or shot down) by representatives/Senators who afterwards start screaming "WAIT! I Didn't know it meant that!"
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Feb 7 2021 07:53am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 7 Feb 2021 19:09)
Anyone with a law degree would make much more by taking the bar than going into politics.
Trumps degree isn't worth the paper it was printed on.


Quote (InsaneBobb @ 7 Feb 2021 19:29)
What?


according to that user “plaguefear” the very degrees that President Trump and Elon Musk got from Penn (B.S., Economics from the University which has the #1 Business School in the world) are worthless? lol wut
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Feb 7 2021 07:55am
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according to that user “plaguefear” the very degrees that President Trump and Elon Musk got from Penn (B.S., Economics from the University which has the #1 Business School in the world) are worthless? lol wut


Everyone knows trump is a shitty business man and would have done better investing his inheritance and doing nothing.
Why would his business degree matter when no Western banks will deal with him?
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Feb 7 2021 07:59am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 7 Feb 2021 20:55)
Everyone knows trump is a shitty business man and would have done better investing his inheritance and doing nothing.
Why would his business degree matter when no Western banks will deal with him?


Oh look a bank apologist lmfao!!

you said the degree he got is worthless. The richest man in the world holds the exact same degree from the exact same academic institution

The President and the richest person in the world both hold “worthless” degrees according to you lol. Guess that leaves no excuse for anyone else for not being successful. Of course if they are successful you want them to be taxed into oblivion :lol:
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Feb 7 2021 08:00am
Quote (Santara @ 7 Feb 2021 14:37)
Nor SHOULD they have to possess a law degree. They're supposed to be citizen legislators pulled from all walks of life, so as to represent the whole of us. That's why they have committees, public comment, and expert testimony when crafting legislation - because sometimes the farmer knows more about farm policy than a lawyer does.


I would go even further: the primary job of politicians is, and should be, policy, not the legal side of things. They can hire lawyers to their staff who translate their policy into actual law, but coming up with good and agreeable policies is the more important step.

Elon Musk doesnt have to be an expert in electrical engineering to pioneer an e-car company, Steve Jobs didnt have to be an engineer nor a programmer to turn Apple into one of the most valuable brands in the world - and a good politician doesnt need to be a law expert.

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Feb 7 2021 08:05am
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Oh look a bank apologist lmfao!!

you said the degree he got is worthless. The richest man in the world holds the exact same degree from the exact same academic institution

The President and the richest person in the world both hold “worthless” degrees according to you lol. Guess that leaves no excuse for anyone else for not being successful. Of course if they are successful you want them to be taxed into oblivion :lol:


We all know he cheated his way through school, he was outed years ago.
We can judge his business acumen on how often he goes bankrupt.
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Feb 7 2021 08:10am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 7 Feb 2021 05:55)
Everyone knows trump is a shitty business man and would have done better investing his inheritance and doing nothing.
Why would his business degree matter when no Western banks will deal with him?


How did he become a Billionaire? How did he double the worth of Fred Trump's real-estate business while serving as it's operational President?

"Everyone knows" Trump is a highly successful business man. And most people who aren't completely deranged over the man also recognize that had he not run for President, his current "difficulties" would not exist.

He challenged the political machine and won. Now the political machine is attempting to crucify him over it. Doesn't matter whether you like or hate the guy. Your claim that his degree is worthless is simply stupid and inaccurate.

None of that is to say that Trump is some "magical" guy who has never failed at a venture. He's had his share of failures, same as any other successful businessman. However, it was his knowledge of economics that led him to predict the 2008 crash back in 2005 and state that he couldn't wait, he was going to make a LOT of money off it. And he did.

You're attempting to derail a topic based on who you like vs who you hate. I'm saying I simply don't care if you like or hate Trump or Boebert or AOC, or anything else. When debating the qualifications of a person, your opinion of them as a person doesn't matter.

Based on the listed qualifications for Congress, is Boebert qualified? Yes. Is AOC qualified? Yes. Based on the job description of what a congressperson actually does, is either Boebert or AOC qualified? No. See? Simple. If you wish to attack one, attack them both, along with the majority of the rest of Congress. Otherwise, it's just a showing of your bias.

Quote (excellence @ 7 Feb 2021 05:53)
according to that user “plaguefear” the very degrees that President Trump and Elon Musk got from Penn (B.S., Economics from the University which has the #1 Business School in the world) are worthless? lol wut


Pfft. Everyone knows that a BA from Boston University (not to be confused with Boston College) is WAY better than a BS in Economics from some shitty Ivy League school. Don't even pretend they're comparable. :rolleyes:

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 7 Feb 2021 06:00)
I would go even further: the primary job of politicians is, and should be, policy, not the legal side of things. They can hire lawyers to their staff who translate their policy into actual law, but coming up with good and agreeable policies is the more important step.

Elon Musk doesnt have to be an expert in electrical engineering to pioneer an e-car company, Steve Jobs didnt have to be an engineer nor a programmer to turn Apple into one of the most valuable brands in the world - and a good politician doesnt need to be a law expert.


LOL. "The job of congress is to write, modify, and repeal legislation." Translation? Nobody hired to the position should be qualified to carry out the task. Instead, they should be required to hire other people to do their job for them.

Dear god.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 7 2021 08:11am
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Feb 7 2021 08:13am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 7 Feb 2021 21:05)
We all know he cheated his way through school, he was outed years ago.
We can judge his business acumen on how often he goes bankrupt.

proof?? outed by who? his frumpy bitter relative who wants a larger share of the inheritance lmao the person accused of cheating for him has long since passed away, and his widow debunked the whole story https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/widow-trumps-friend-pushes-back-mary-trump-sat/story?id=71678433

youre the type to fall for dailymail and the sun headlines. and you say an economics degree from the institution with the top business school in the world is worthless lol you anti-education science and math denier. stick to telling us all the many stories about how many IQ tests you took at 14 years old and how your ex incinerated the results lmfao, pathetic..

This post was edited by excellence on Feb 7 2021 08:16am
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Feb 7 2021 08:20am
Quote (excellence @ Feb 8 2021 12:13am)
proof?? outed by who? his frumpy bitter relative who wants a larger share of the inheritance lmao the person accused of cheating for him has long since passed away, and his widow debunked the whole story https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/widow-trumps-friend-pushes-back-mary-trump-sat/story?id=71678433

youre the type to fall for dailymail and the sun headlines. and you say an economics degree from the institution with the top business school in the world is worthless lol you anti-education science and math denier. stick to telling us all the many stories about how many IQ tests you took at 14 years old and how your ex incinerated the results lmfao, pathetic..


I'd trust project veritas before president bonespurs.
He lies, a lot.
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