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Feb 5 2021 04:08pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 4 2021 10:19am)
So you're saying the Chinese government is freely dispersing Fentanyl to the American populace?

I'd say, China is the #1 supplier of Fentanyl to the nation's medical supply chain, and irresponsible and criminal elements are redirecting a tiny portion of that drug onto the streets at insane personal enrichment profits.

Prove me wrong, because most of the evidence is in my favor. China LOSES any time American production drops. They rely on our resources to succeed, just as we rely on their production to succeed. There are 43632763672 things bad about China. If you believe one of those things is that they want to indiscriminately murder Americans, you're high.


China wants to demoralize our nation.

You do that by shipping tons of Fentanyl to Mexico to prop up gangs that smuggle them into the US.

Sons and daughters dying in their parents arms is a statistic to you, but it will destroy our civilization if left unchecked.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 4 2021 09:33am)
Stop agreeing with me, it's making me question my own words.

That being said, the US isn't that far in debt to China. Currently our total debt to China is just slightly over $1 Trillion. It's half again that to Japan, AND our capital investment and product available to seize is nearly that high. Like, I don't think China's worried about debt.



China has been artificially devaluing their economy for decades. If you spend time on the ground there, you start to realize the huge discrepancy. Its like when a big farmer is willing to sell their crops below market just to squeeze the small farmers out. Then years later, big farmer buys little farmers land for cheap, and returns crop prices to market norms.


The US should have 0 debt given the damage COVID has wrought on the nation. Given we have 450k citizen deaths tied to COVID, and some analyst value 1US citizen at 10million, then China has devalued the US by 4.5 trillion.

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The US should have 0 debt given the damage COVID has wrought on the nation. Given we have 450k citizen deaths tied to COVID, and some analyst value 1US citizen at 10million


I think this may be disproportionate. When you review the data from the COVID deaths a large trend appears that correlates age above that of retirement with mortality. So when reviewing the analyst value of US Citizen at 10million this would need to be re-evaluated and stratified based upon age of US Citizen. In other words what do the analysts value the life of a US Citizen at given age spectrums? So for example value at ages 20,25,30,35,40 .... up to 100.

Then this need to be quantified among the totality of deaths that have occurred within each age bracket
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Feb 7 2021 02:06pm
Quote (Cowaz @ 7 Feb 2021 11:25)
I think this may be disproportionate. When you review the data from the COVID deaths a large trend appears that correlates age above that of retirement with mortality. So when reviewing the analyst value of US Citizen at 10million this would need to be re-evaluated and stratified based upon age of US Citizen. In other words what do the analysts value the life of a US Citizen at given age spectrums? So for example value at ages 20,25,30,35,40 .... up to 100.

Then this need to be quantified among the totality of deaths that have occurred within each age bracket


Aye, and average age of covid-related death is what, 82, or thereabouts? We always quote numbers like "65" just to avoid arguments. But literally, the average falls right around 82. At that point, the economic value of the person isn't high. Don't get me wrong, I'm not indicating anything about them "not mattering" or any other. Simply that the economic value of that person dying from covid would tend to fall very low. They've already provided the vast majority of the economic value they're going to provide.

I don't much agree with the idea of "You should pay us for our deaths from your cold" anyhow though. First, it's stupid. Second, if China agreed to such a thing? We'd just start developing new diseases to release via China upon ourselves any time the government wanted money. It's not that the US Government is any less bad than the Chinese government. It's just that they tend to be sneakier about it.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2021 03:06pm)
Aye, and average age of covid-related death is what, 82, or thereabouts? We always quote numbers like "65" just to avoid arguments. But literally, the average falls right around 82. At that point, the economic value of the person isn't high. Don't get me wrong, I'm not indicating anything about them "not mattering" or any other. Simply that the economic value of that person dying from covid would tend to fall very low. They've already provided the vast majority of the economic value they're going to provide.

I don't much agree with the idea of "You should pay us for our deaths from your cold" anyhow though. First, it's stupid. Second, if China agreed to such a thing? We'd just start developing new diseases to release via China upon ourselves any time the government wanted money. It's not that the US Government is any less bad than the Chinese government. It's just that they tend to be sneakier about it.


The United States government is orders of magnitude better than the Chinese.
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Quote (youngs1n @ Feb 3 2021 04:39pm)
Every country has already realized that the USA is worthless. Nothing new. Only country that hasn’t realized that the USA is worthless.. is the USA.


exactly. and it wasn't just trump that shattered the world's confidence in America. It's mainly the fact that Americans are so ridiculously vulnerable to propaganda and have no cohesion as a united people

rip USA you're all fucked
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Feb 7 2021 06:57pm
Quote (proccy @ Feb 7 2021 07:56pm)
exactly. and it wasn't just trump that shattered the world's confidence in America. It's mainly the fact that Americans are so ridiculously vulnerable to propaganda and have no cohesion as a united people

rip USA you're all fucked



Pretty much
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Feb 7 2021 08:01pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Feb 7 2021 06:57pm)
The United States government is orders of magnitude better than the Chinese.


i agree with this statement ^_^
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Feb 7 2021 08:03pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Feb 7 2021 05:57pm)
The United States government is orders of magnitude better than the Chinese.


In most ways yes. As far as I know we're not actively committing genocide after all.
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Feb 7 2021 08:20pm
the way China treats humans i hope they never become world power like usa.... well i'm alive anyways cuz were in for a world of hurt when that happens
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