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Jan 30 2021 02:27pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jan 30 2021 03:10pm)
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Agreed. Its a very common talking point and its clearly wrong.


I just came across that woman in the tweet on r publicfreakouts

Shes insane
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Jan 30 2021 02:28pm
Abortion is good.
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Jan 30 2021 02:40pm
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I just came across that woman in the tweet on r publicfreakouts

Shes insane


Oh god I just realized who she is.

and am totally unsurprised to see Cam posting her lol
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Jan 30 2021 02:41pm
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I would distance myself from her. She's dumb as hell.


Shes says/does some things that are a little wild and whacky and is getting completely smeared in the media, and as such is probably a liability, but she also says some things that are pretty great.
I have more respect for her than some neocon or boomercon who wants to play it safe and suck up to the establishment.
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Jan 30 2021 02:41pm
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Shes says/does some things that are a little wild and whacky and is getting completely smeared in the media, and as such is probably a liability, but she also says some things that are pretty great.
I have more respect for her than some neocon or boomercon who wants to play it safe and suck up to the establishment.


She thinks a space laser started the California fires last year so they could clear way for a monorail.

She's batshit insane.
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Jan 30 2021 02:44pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 30 2021 09:52am)
Clearly pro choice.


I think this notion is far too common and unjustified... this notion that a significant share of the women getting abortions are irresponsible, guiltfree sluts who use it as some sort of day-after contraception. In my (admittedly limited) experience, getting an abortion is almost never easy for a woman, and insinuating otherwise is a dirty trick by the pro life side to sway the debate in their favor.

For every callous woman who isnt emotionally affected by an abortion, there are at least 5 woman who were emphatically pro choice, but then struggle far more with the decision and procedure than they anticipated.


i dont disagree, but 1 in 6 women callously getting an abortion isnt my thing.
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Jan 30 2021 02:45pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 30 2021 03:41pm)
She thinks a space laser started the California fires last year so they could clear way for a monorail.

She's batshit insane.


haven't heard that one

Ripping Bill Kristol is still good.
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Jan 30 2021 02:48pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jan 30 2021 12:41pm)
Shes says/does some things that are a little wild and whacky and is getting completely smeared in the media, and as such is probably a liability, but she also says some things that are pretty great.
I have more respect for her than some neocon or boomercon who wants to play it safe and suck up to the establishment.


What's wrong with the establishment? It's simply a point of view and set of policies dedicated to the status quo. Some of the views may be deplorable but they are largely driven by reality. The point is that you need to be based in reality whether you're a libertarian, socialist, conservative, liberal, etc.

This woman? She just uses highly charged rhetoric based on complete nonsense. She's not really smeared by the media....they are just reporting on things that she said. When you say crazy things, the profit driven media is going to report it because that's what the free market wants.
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Jan 30 2021 03:23pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 30 2021 03:48pm)
What's wrong with the establishment? It's simply a point of view and set of policies dedicated to the status quo. Some of the views may be deplorable but they are largely driven by reality. The point is that you need to be based in reality whether you're a libertarian, socialist, conservative, liberal, etc.

This woman? She just uses highly charged rhetoric based on complete nonsense. She's not really smeared by the media....they are just reporting on things that she said. When you say crazy things, the profit driven media is going to report it because that's what the free market wants.


This post isnt based in reality.

"its simply a point of view"
You sound like Ilhan Omar with "some people did something" referring to 9/11

Corrupt and evil people responsible for mass death and impoverishment, but sure lets worry more about some old facebook comments that Media Matters propagandists put a bad spin on.
Priorities.

There is a concerted and prominent effort to misrepresent what she said and put it in the worst negative light to smear her.
You can dislike her and some of the things she has said, but the smear campaign is quite obvious.
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Jan 30 2021 03:34pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jan 30 2021 01:23pm)
This post isnt based in reality.

"its simply a point of view"
You sound like Ilhan Omar with "some people did something" referring to 9/11

Corrupt and evil people responsible for mass death and impoverishment, but sure lets worry more about some old facebook comments that Media Matters propagandists put a bad spin on.
Priorities.

There is a concerted and prominent effort to misrepresent what she said and put it in the worst negative light to smear her.
You can dislike her and some of the things she has said, but the smear campaign is quite obvious.


Action can lead to mass death and impoverishment and so can inaction. Being anti-establishment for the sake of being anti-establishment is an intellectually weak stance. Bernie Sanders is anti-establishment and I think we can agree that his policies would be SIGNIFICANTLY worse. The crux of my argument is that many competing points of view can exist and most are based on facts. This woman is simply a demagogue. If that's what floats your boat, then more power to you.

I'm not worried about this woman and I don't think there's much spin on what she's said. Maybe you can find an example of that for me. She's simply in a position of power now as an elected official and that comes with higher scrutiny. She WANTED more media attention through her antics and now people are wondering what she said in the past. Turns out she's said some pretty crazy shit. I really wouldn't classify that as a smear campaign...
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