That isn't even viable as a nuclear option as it would completely destroy every organization with a comments section. Literally every forum would be gone. It's just not gonna happen, nor should it.

What is the legal basis for requiring a mitigation plan? Honestly I don't see a better way to organize this that is constitutionally firm and achieves the results you are wanting.

twitter only has a few hundred million users iirc?

in reality it's a teeny tiny website that everyone just talks about too much/takes too seriously. that's the trend i want to see reversed in the future. no more news articles "GUESS WHAT TWAT84 THINKS ABOUT THIS"

There is no need for it to be so dramatic. Rewrite section 230 to qualify the immunity and put Twitter on the wrong side of it.

How would you qualify the immunity?

You can't do it in a way that requires political neutrality without running afoul of the first amendment in a pretty substantial way.

The first amendment doesn't factor in here at all. The service providers are being given broad legal immunity to censor otherwise protected speech. The legal immunity can be tailored to obscenity specifically, or pornography only. And if comment sections need to err on the side of caution and permit the occasional "cunt" or f-bomb, then so be it.

The burden of proof for libel in the United States is very strong as is. This would open the door to lawsuits, but that's about it. It would take years of cases working there way through the courts to understand the full impact. The goal is to incentivize Twitter and co. from having to have that happen.

one question no one seems able to answer is why in 2021 a conservative social media company that is truly free speech (read: not an echo chamber like Parler) can't exist.

from one side of their mouths conservatives like to call social media giants monopolies, even tho there are like 5 of them. and from the other side of their mouth they like to imply this is a huge issue to 25-50% of Americans.

seems to me the barrier to entry is upstart programming of a website and convincing customers to click the "Sign Up" button. and that's it.


the truth is you've been gotten by hucksters who ironically cant be asked to do any hard work to fix their own problems. right wingers in senate are just social media welfare queens, they want it done for them and just how they like it or it's muh constitution.

if u believe in the free market, unsub from facebook/twitter/youtube/insta/etc, sub to parler, and then shut up because thats all u can do in the free market.

The only people not using Twitter are those who feel very strongly about perceived bias and censorship. That self-selects for very specific, like-minded individuals. Parler can't simply obtain Twitter's clientele and demographics by being an identical, less trafficked version, people need a reason to switch.

As more people join, the culture has an opportunity to shift towards the mainstream, but that will never happen as the social media oligopolies use the client base as an excuse to eliminate competition.

Yeah, censorship. that's like what we're talking about. isn't that a big deal to the exact people who would switch?

If tomorrow we got rid of section 230 then these companies would still be able to censor political speech they disagree with. Being able to censor your platform is the default for private entities. It's only when they reach the insanely high threshhold of being effectively the local government that they can be forced to host speech they disagree with, and no social media company currently comes anywhere close.

Removing the protection from libel would open these companies up to so much legal liability it boggles the mind. Every instance of "Trump banged his daughter" that anybody has posted to make fun of him becomes a target, and everybody knows these companies have deep pockets so nobody is going to hesitate to pull the trigger if there's even a slim chance.

The interwebs became too stronk. Big Tech has taken over as our voice because people are too lazy and stupid to deal with each other in person anymore. So now that these privatized companies are pwning our voices, they can censor us because they are private. Teh world is so effed.

Then you have this:
https://foxsanantonio.com/news/yami-investigates/chinese-wind-farm-in-texas-its-the-greatest-national-security-concern-said-hurd

A few months ago, China decided to buy up thousands of acres and throw windmills on it. Now they can generate their own frickin' power and start slowly shitting on our country straight from Texas. Strategically, it looks like they basically built a Nexus and started having some drones collecting resources.

This post was edited by net on Jan 12 2021 09:22am