which part of 'most experts disagree with the flawed reasoning of the ONE article you falsely pretend to be the scientific consensus on the issue because it seems to confirm what you tell yourself' do you not understand? your bias is somewhat understandable, but it obviously impacts your reasoning skills - simply repeating refuted talking points in order to reject the inconvenient findings concerning your hobby won't make it any more scientifically sound.

don't blame me for the fact that you don't like what most scientists say on this issue. i'm just going where evidence leads me on this, i have no dog in the fight.

let me ask you this simple question: if you learned some day that it's undisputed scientific consensus that fish definitely, without the shadow of a doubt, felt pain, that your hobby is cruel and inflicts considerable distress every single time you catch a fish - would you give it up?

You made that up, thats what i don't understand.



Will never happen. because they do not, its not my fault you struggle with the science.


This post was edited by Plaguefear on Dec 28 2020 01:35am

Fish don't have feelings.

my friend caught 30 fish in one day
he would smack them over the bucket to kill them or at least put them out, then drop them all in the bucket
it was the most barbaric thing i'd ever seen. but he was really good at catching fish

i mean the brutality of him just whacking fish to death all day still lives in the annals of my soul
it was horrific. i was like omg. it was funny but absolutely barbaric

i did not. i linked it to you before even, not surprised you ignored it though: https://researchers.mq.edu.au/en/publications/fish-pain-an-inconvenient-truth-commentary-ii-on-key-on-ifish-pai



you're the science denier on this one, outright ignoring all the evidence to the contrary of your self-deception.

I think you'd agree harming a paraplegic wouldn't be right even if you thought they don't feel a thing?

I fish every weekend April through August. I stock my freezer and give it away to elders. Anything under 8 pounds or so I put back if I haven't overly damaged the fish. Sometimes I want something smaller for a pan fried fish and I personally think the smaller trout taste better. I typically am always looking down the hole in the ice and can see if it's a small one trying to latch on and ill yank my hook away. That isn't really possible when casting however.

I personally crimp my barbs.

Obviously its common practice to immediately smash the top of their heads.

If people saw you catching and releasing good fish up here over a certain weight they would probably shoot you. Not because the fish is in pain but because 50% of the population is malnourished.

This post was edited by SBD on Dec 28 2020 10:56am

Worrying about catch and release is just stupid when you got mass overfishing ruining fish wildlife.

I mean could say both are a concern but pick your battles. Leeroy the boomer doing catch and release on his own time is nothing to be concerned with but the mega fishing that is going on is a real problem.

Literally point by point debunked in the article i linked, every single aspect was covered.
They can literally remove the frontal lobe of a fish and it will exhibit IDENTICAL patterns, the frontal lobe is literally where pain originates.