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Dec 8 2020 09:20pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Dec 8 2020 09:12pm)
There is a vast demographic of rentoids on the left as a whole that would feel otherwise


Credit system means you can’t complain about Trump (replace Trump with Obama/Biden/Hillary/Pelosi for the other side).
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Dec 8 2020 09:39pm
Quote (Bazi @ 8 Dec 2020 22:11)
Need to send this demographic to China

the irony is there are landlords there too, they’re called the CCP
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Quote (Bazi @ 9 Dec 2020 03:42)
Idk man I feel like you can’t commit genocide and still get backing from the left


Nah. Palestinian leaders have been calling for a genocide against Israel for decades without ever losing support from leftists abroad. The Khmer Rouge carried out what historians label as an "autogenocide" against its own people, the same could also be said about Mao and his Great Leap Forward - you nonetheless had lefty college students and activists running around supporting them and carrying a little Mao bible in their bag.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 8 2020 10:00pm)
Nah. Palestinian leaders have been calling for a genocide against Israel for decades without ever losing support from leftists abroad. The Khmer Rouge carried out what historians label as an "autogenocide" against its own people, the same could also be said about Mao and his Great Leap Forward - you nonetheless had lefty college students and activists running around supporting them and carrying a little Mao bible in their bag.


Well Israel remain the dominant actor in that conflict and its natural to back the underdog

CCP is no underdog
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Dec 9 2020 04:12am
They’re just copying the USA.
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Who knew that ones and zeros of code would pose a greater threat to humanity than the literal ability to split atoms and destroy everything on earth.

Yeah, I want to be optimistic but between climate change issues and the complete and total evolution of AI now and what could come over the next 50 years, I have zero idea how the world goes forward and maintains some level of values related to the enlightenment and right to privacy or freedom from government/corporate overreach.
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Quote (dro94 @ Dec 8 2020 05:05pm)
A lot of the technology (particularly in infrastructure and military) the Chinese government invests in is already at a similarly advanced level to Western countries. What I'm getting at is that the Chinese population are mostly poor, they make less than $10,000 USD a year on average and they do not own or have access to the technology we do...and they won't for many, many decades. Most of the country is rural and poor without access to phones or wifi, I don't consider a country advanced if their general population isn't.


you're double dipping. you cant make the point that authoritarian systems arent advanced because their general population isnt advanced, that is how authoritarian regimes draw strength. its paradoxical to think of an authoritarian regime where the individual is successful and propped up.

authoritarian regimes are more efficient, centralized power, centralized wealth, devalued life for the masses. the logical argument isnt that these regimes are less successful, its that they're historically temporary because human arent cattle willing to be prodded into place. but with the creep of advancements to both the govts prod in security with things like a nationwide closed loop internet and social points, and also a creep of human to cattle like docile beasts, the day draws ever nearer where the axiom of authoritarian regimes being a flash in the pan could no longer be true.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 8 2020 09:19pm)
In college, even half of the engineers harbored these fantasies.


Guilty, college land lords are cut from another cloth though. All of mine were low educated hacks with some real estate rental license which is easy as hell to get. Had to dispute every move out charge they would make up to steal deposits. They aren't the problem though, it's the system man. I've been land lord, it's setup in our favor, especially with homelessness and housing issues rampant.

The facial recognition technology is very solid. I've implemented facial, and body posture detection with neural net machine learning. What is scary is a really shitty low resolution camera is enough to get good data points. Specialized masks really throw it off.

The score is probably a matrix of scores across sub categories. It would better if the social score was for the government so they could use that in a feedback loop to course correct. The US government servants get more feedback from corporate than citizen.

My construction worker buddies would get terrible scores lol. I envy the blue collar social dynamics.



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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 9 2020 01:10pm)
you're double dipping. you cant make the point that authoritarian systems arent advanced because their general population isnt advanced, that is how authoritarian regimes draw strength. its paradoxical to think of an authoritarian regime where the individual is successful and propped up.

authoritarian regimes are more efficient, centralized power, centralized wealth, devalued life for the masses. the logical argument isnt that these regimes are less successful, its that they're historically temporary because human arent cattle willing to be prodded into place. but with the creep of advancements to both the govts prod in security with things like a nationwide closed loop internet and social points, and also a creep of human to cattle like docile beasts, the day draws ever nearer where the axiom of authoritarian regimes being a flash in the pan could no longer be true.


Authoritarian regimes can make decisions quicker but that isn't efficiency, that just allows them to make the wrong decisions at breakneck speed. A prime example is how hyperinflation in authoritarian regimes is commonplace as they don't have independent central banks. Their economies are less dynamic as a result of being authoritarian rather than it being the condition upon which an authoritarian regime can arise (which is also true).

I agree that authoriarian regimes like China will last in part due to technological advancements that cement their stronghold.
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Quote (dro94 @ Dec 9 2020 01:20pm)
Authoritarian regimes can make decisions quicker but that isn't efficiency, that just allows them to make the wrong decisions at breakneck speed.


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