Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 28 2020 02:07pm)

So glad the middle people are finally acknowledging this lol

I don't have IceMage calling me crazy for pointing out that rural America is still fucking filled with racists.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 28 2020 02:08pm)

I've said time and time again that Obama didnt start the division. It goes back to the civil rights movement and Reaganism. Maybe other Trump supporters were indeed motivated by a subconscious "black man bad"-mentality, I am not.

Quote (Budgeting @ 28 Oct 2020 21:09)

this is 100% what it is and why repubs let trump do whatever he wants. they want to affirm white supremacy and essentially make it hell for any POC to be in charge in the US.

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 28 2020 03:05pm)

that's a cute write up, but if we're being honest a black dude got elected and trump was the blowback.

yes there are factors like outsourcing, environmental regulations, gun control, gay rights, cj reform, etc.

but if u had to make the simplest answer its that a black guy got in and they elected a vocal white guys who hated the black guy.

people like to use sneaky language around the Obama presidency, "he divided us", "polarization started with obama" etc. while leaving out a big part of the division was that he was black.

this is america.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 28 2020 02:13pm)

why is Trump making inroads with black and hispanic voters then?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-losing-ground-with-white-voters-but-gaining-among-black-and-hispanic-americans/

Explain this trend without using the term "Uncle Tom".

Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 28 2020 02:14pm)

This views the world and the reasons people voted for Trump through the lens of the deranged leftist worldview that boils everything down to race and racism.
Its just not true.

Somehow all the racists skipped voting when the black guy was running for president twice, but were the key factor when the unbelievably unlikable Hillary Clinton ran against a charismatic populist that appealed to working class Americans and people fed up with the democrats' garbage.

Quote (thesnipa @ 28 Oct 2020 21:16)

likely because many in the black coalition dont like Biden, and REALLY dont like Kamala over her record as Cali prosecutor. there's a sizeable number of black voters leading a movement to not vote.

don't believe me? go to Charlamagne Tha God's instagram account, scroll down to a post about Biden or Kamala, and enjoy the comment section.

in roads lol

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 28 2020 02:18pm)

This still doesnt explain his improvement with hispanics. If Trump really was this racist monster who strives to take the U.S. back to the Jim Crow era, his support with them should be falling, not improving.

Quote (IceMage @ Oct 28 2020 08:03am)

https://morningshots.thebulwark.com/p/the-middle-finger-election



A common defense from Trump defenders is that they don't care about personality or character, they care about policy.

But looking at the Republican party today, it's vastly less serious, more conspiratorial, more dishonest, and more abrasive than it was in 2016. I think some of the left's excesses are a response to this. If Trump gets reaffirmed by the American people, I don't know why any politician going forward on the left or right would try to sell ideas of normalcy, decency, compromise, patriotic unity, etc.

The notion that Trump wouldn't infect the Republican party with his nastiness is no longer valid. It's happened.

So I wonder whether Trump supporters here view this as a welcome development. Do you buy into the notion that politics going forward should be an all out war, with civility, decency, and compromise being silly relics of the past? And for fellow anti-Trumpers, if he wins this election, what lessons should we take from that?

Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 28 2020 09:50am)

What an asinine thing to say. Most people are in close proximity with people the like and love. Who the fuck would purposefully infect their friends and family or other close people who most likely are like minded out of spite?

Quote (thesnipa @ 28 Oct 2020 21:22)

shockingly white-hispanic and white-black racial relations aren't inherently tied, nor do they follow the same trends.

conservative catholic hispanics have been growing in the GOP for a while, as well as legal immigrants who dont like illegal immigration.

u said not to use uncle tom so i tackled the blacks, the GOP and Trump may very well be making progress with hispanics.

why would hispanics care about jim crow history? its not their history. slavery isnt their history. the civil war and civil rights movement isnt their history. MLK, Malcolm X, etc.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 28 2020 03:13pm)

why is Trump making inroads with black and hispanic voters then?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-losing-ground-with-white-voters-but-gaining-among-black-and-hispanic-americans/

Explain this trend without using the term "Uncle Tom".

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 28 2020 12:25pm)

Could you please stop being edgy for the sake of edginess? Budgeting explicitly claimed that Trump's true goal is to affirm white supremacy and to make living in the U.S. hell for every POC. If this were true, it would of course affect hispanics too.