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Sep 2 2020 04:24pm
Quote (thundercock @ Sep 2 2020 03:18pm)
I read this a few days ago here: https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

It didn't really pass the smell test for me.



So much of it is obvious bullshit. I sit in vote counting rooms every election season because I have a personal stake in the vote counts. It's how I make bonuses on contracts. This person just made up a bunch of shit that they thought sounded plausible, but almost none of it actually is.
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can someone explain to me what the downside is to investing more in election security
anyone
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can someone explain to me what the downside is to investing more in election security
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Obama actively tried to give states money so they could enhance election security ahead of the 2016 election, but it was shut down by Republicans.

We desperately need to update our infrastructure, there was a John Oliver story several years ago about how you could take the faces off voting booths in some states and reveal naked USB ports, and how they had to be routinely plugged into the internet to get updates, but either didn't have security or were way behind on their security updates.

So yeah.... IMO it wouldn't be controversial among the people, but there's almost a rule in America that if something is common sense and would cost less than the clear benefit then nobody will want to do it.

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Sep 2 2020 05:31pm
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-encourages-north-carolina-residents-vote-twice-test-mail-system-n1239140

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"So let them send it in and let them go vote, and if their system's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote,” Trump said when asked whether he has confidence in the mail-in system in the battleground state.

"If it's as good as they say it is then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote. So that's the way it is. And that's what they should do," he said.


What a nicely timed response from turnip. Clearly he was only joking when he suggested people break the law.

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Sep 2 2020 05:34pm
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Would be hilarious if anyone actually votes twice because of what he said there
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Sep 2 2020 06:13pm
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Would be hilarious if anyone actually votes twice because of what he said there


Not hard at all to imagine a scenario where someone is allowed to vote in person because his mail ballot hasnt been registered/tabulated yet because of administrative hiccups, but then his mail ballot also pops up somewhere in the days after the election.




Regarding investment into election security or establishing a common standard all states have to meet, supervised by the federal government: I would assume that the main resistance against any of that has historically come from the South.
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Sep 2 2020 07:22pm
Quote (proccy @ Sep 2 2020 04:34pm)
Would be hilarious if anyone actually votes twice because of what he said there



1. It's incredibly difficult verging on impossible to do

2. They're going to prison if they try to

So I sincerely hope they try.
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Sep 2 2020 07:23pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 2 2020 05:13pm)
Not hard at all to imagine a scenario where someone is allowed to vote in person because his mail ballot hasnt been registered/tabulated yet because of administrative hiccups, but then his mail ballot also pops up somewhere in the days after the election.


This wouldn't result in a second vote counting though. This isn't how vote counting works.
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Sep 2 2020 07:42pm
https://www.startribune.com/prosecutors-charge-19-in-north-carolina-with-voter-fraud/572299482/

Feds charge 19 with voter fraud in North Carolina

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Federal prosecutors in North Carolina announced voter fraud charges Wednesday against 19 non-citizens accused of illegally casting a ballot in 2016.

Each defendant voted in a federal election in 2016, and one defendant also voted in 2018, according to a news release from United States Attorney Matthew G.T. Martin's office. In some instances, the defendants were also charged with related offenses such as making a false statement.


turns out all an illegal alien has to do to cast an illegal vote is... go to the polling place and cast their vote
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https://www.startribune.com/prosecutors-charge-19-in-north-carolina-with-voter-fraud/572299482/

Feds charge 19 with voter fraud in North Carolina



turns out all an illegal alien has to do to cast an illegal vote is... go to the polling place and cast their vote



Yep, and they get caught and arrested, as is usual, and account for .000003% of all votes cast in 2016 and .0000005% in 2018. And we have no idea who they voted for. Historically, non-citizens like Rosa Maria Ortega have illegally voted for Trump.
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