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https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1299184932384768001



Biden's going to address the violence again Monday apparently.


State and local police are under the control of the governor and mayor respectively.

If the governor refuses help from the federal government it only enforces this first arrangement.

I'll wait for twitter to censor Biden's fake news.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 30 2020 12:57pm)
Joe Biden condemning Antifa today would be too little too late.
But he won't even do that.

You're pretending that unless Donald Trump embraces 100% of the liberal agenda- even that driven by irrational fearmongering narratives rather than science or fact- he's not going far enough.


There's plenty Trump can do that doesn't amount to "embrace 100% of the liberal agenda". It would probably have been enough if he wasn't pathologically addicted to being divisive. You're confusing "Maybe Trump could have tried to not actively make these situations worse" with "Trump needs to do a total 180 and become a SJW cuck".
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Remember: every example of violence Donald Trump decries has happened on his watch. Under his leadership. During his presidency.


... in Democratic cities, within Democratic states, caused by groups who are firmly supported by the Democratic party and the Democrat-aligned media, drawing on the ideology bred by overwhelmingly liberal, Democrat-leaning colleges and editorial boards.

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... in Democratic cities, within Democratic states, caused by groups who are firmly supported by the Democratic party and the Democrat-aligned media, drawing on the ideology bred by overwhelmingly liberal, Democrat-aligned colleges and editorial boards.


Yeah but Trump bears responsibility for violence perpetrated by Joe Biden supporters that Joe Biden won't disavow.
Every time a Biden supporter goes out and murders a Trump supporter, that's more blood on Trump's hands
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So would Joe Biden invoke the insurrection act, invade Portland with federal troops and depose Ted Wheeler?



Not a Biden fan, but the only way to deescalate this is to go to Portland, speak a message of peace and collaboration on police reform, and ensure Wheeler is able to get some specific police reform done that can be blasted out on “liberal” media daily as a victory. I think Biden would be inclined to at least part of that. Responding to protests over police abuse and fascism with more police abuse and more fascism will only escalate the situation.
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... in Democratic cities, within Democratic states, caused by groups who are firmly supported by the Democratic party and the Democrat-aligned media, drawing on the ideology bred by overwhelmingly liberal, Democrat-leaning colleges and editorial boards.


Why would those groups be "democratically aligned"? It's almost like the problem has been actively ignored by the right.

This is kind of like how black voters are overwhelmingly Democrat, not because they necessarily align with them ideologically, but because the Republican party is actively hostile to them and actively courts the racist south.

It's the same reason why the jewish vote goes Democrat. It's not because every jew is a liberal. It's because Republicans court anti-semites.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 30 2020 01:59pm)
Now that's what I'm going to preemptively call too little, too late


Biden's not a reactionary. Unlike Trump, he's not a political day trader. That's part of the reason he won the primary.

He's not trying to garner the votes of Fox News watchers who already support Trump. We still have a couple months to go... we have no idea what issues will overtake the headlines until then. Overreacting to protests won't hurt Trump, but it could hurt Biden.

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State and local police are under the control of the governor and mayor respectively.

If the governor refuses help from the federal government it only enforces this first arrangement.

I'll wait for twitter to censor Biden's fake news.


So... the president is irrelevant in that case? Unless they're willing to insert federal agents without the consent of local officials. Which Trump isn't doing now?

This is an argument that simply assumes more officers/troops would lead to a better outcome. It's perfectly conceivable that it would lead to more deaths and more chaos. As we can see from the incident that sparked the protests, police aren't the best at deescalating.
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Yeah but Trump bears responsibility for violence perpetrated by Joe Biden supporters that Joe Biden won't disavow.
Every time a Biden supporter goes out and murders a Trump supporter, that's more blood on Trump's hands


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Quote (Goomshill @ 30 Aug 2020 13:59)
Now that's what I'm going to preemptively call too little, too late

lefties violently riot for years in response to them not liking an election result and somehow the only way to get them to stop is to vote for the candidate they want. who just happens to be a swamp demon most known for being the author of the “black super-predators” crime bill

lmfao!!!
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