Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 18 2020 10:24am)
>record
She's been in Congress since 2017 a couple of years is hardly a record. Her record is going back to her prosecutor career.
Trump would have loved for Biden to choose a progressive. It would of made his life 1000% easier and the attacks much more potent. Trump's attacks could of been much more on point, now his campaign is kind of lost and is still spinning as Kamala being a radical leftist even though she's the typical neocon democrat establishment. Instead he has to square off against a centrist ticket who on paper at least are distancing themselves from the fringe far left. Goom is right though on them fumbling the message. BLM/anti-police is not a winning strategy to carry largely white swing states.
This standard is silly... Trump's views pre-campaign as a New York liberal aren't supposed to be relevant, but Kamala suddenly has to be defined only by her career as California AG? Makes no sense. Her Senate record and professed views are what's most relevant here. She's clearly a progressive, but is willing to support her boss's views. Sort of like how Mike Pence can go from caring about deficits to supporting Trump's "raise spending everywhere, debt doesn't matter" policy.
BTW, calling everyone who isn't a Ron Paul loon "neocon" just shows you to not be a serious person. Neocon typically refers to hawks who support military intervention to promote democracy... it's not a catch-all word for people you don't like.
Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 18 2020 10:35am)
The DNC needs to choose whether they're targeting swing voters or their left -wing base. Both are viable options, but it's going to be difficult to achieve both.
By "normal", you mean swing-voters, and not the Rachel Maddow watching Democrats whose voting preferences are hard wired. If the goal is to capture that demographic, then racial grievance politics and championing a movement that sees looting as "reparations" is most likely the wrong way to go.
It has been interesting to see the polls tighten as reporting on widespread urban violence and looting continues to spread. Making support for that chaos a central part of the platform is playing into Trump's hands.
How many swing voters buy into the Fox News argument that these racial justice protests are just a bunch of Commies looting and burning things down? The George Floyd protests were a historic moment in American history... pretending it didn't happen and not addressing those concerns doesn't strike me as a smart play. Last time I checked a significant number of voters have moved on racial issues and BLM. And, as I said before, I don't think it was the main takeaway from last night. The only reason you guys focus on it so much is because that's what triggers you emotionally.
This post was edited by IceMage on Aug 18 2020 08:46am