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Quote (Handcuffs @ 4 Aug 2020 14:38)
This response is interesting to me. I will continue to reflect on it.


what specifically? the unreflected one-sidedness, the gross generalisations, or the insults?

seriously though, there is a point to be made about the increased availability of what used to be food for special occasions - but everyone in the first world stuffing their faces with burgers each day, to the detriment of the whole planet (and to the largest degree to those who DON'T have that kind of access) - is not the kind of 'progress' without downsides, the civilatory achievement that void tries to suggest. so much for 'privileged idiot', lol.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Aug 4 2020 08:39am)
- Meat is bad for health if taken in excess, and many people, especially americans, as example, are eating vastly too much.
- Predators, superior, species, are a super small minority in the ocean of species.
- Dominance is not that related to meat. Lets do a strech to primates who eat fruits.
- Mass production of meat is absolutely catastrophic, ecologically.
- Whole world population eating meat like fatfucks would be instant ecosystems destruction.

Honestly it's hard to find words to describe how wrong you are.


-Anything in excess is bad for you.
-Dominance is related to meat. Do you even understand basic biology/chemistry? Animal proteins build our muscles
-Mass production is not catastrophic, you either don't understand what the word catastrophic means or are just purposefully being hysterical- like i said i'm glad meat is mass produced so poor people can have some too
-No it wouldn't. Most of the world is eating meat now and not all ecosystems are being destroyed. It's possible to have large farms in the middle of the US while leaving large ecosystems all across the US untouched/preserved.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 4 2020 02:03pm)
-Anything in excess is bad for you.
-Dominance is related to meat. Do you even understand basic biology/chemistry? Animal proteins build our muscles
-Mass production is not catastrophic, you either don't understand what the word catastrophic means or are just purposefully being hysterical- like i said i'm glad meat is mass produced so poor people can have some too
-No it wouldn't. Most of the world is eating meat now and not all ecosystems are being destroyed. It's possible to have large farms in the middle of the US while leaving large ecosystems all across the US untouched/preserved.


ignorance is a bliss. I admire how simple it must be being in your head. proper holiday


you don't need animal proteins to build muscle.
beef production is on the top of the list of things that cause climate changes and global warming
"dominance is related to meat" is by far one of the dumbest things I've read in years and I'm not even trying to insult you, I'm just properly shook if you legit think that has remotely any sense.


"we evolved to eat meat" is funny as well, considering that ever since we were monkeys, till today, we have never in our evolution had any part of our body that makes us a carnivore. teeth, claws, digestion system, none.
funny that your quote above says "do you understand basic biology" while your teeth wouldn't tbe able to chew on a piece of meat unless it was well prepared and cooked, and that very same meat is rotting in your body for weeks before your body completely gets rid of it.
yet the massive biology knowledge in you claims you're a carnivore.
go easy on them wild animals, mate.




btw you're 1 google search away from successful sports names that are vegans / vegetarians / whatever.
here's few from top of my head:
Nate Diaz
Patrik Baboumian
Nimai Delgado (born vegetarian, vegan for past 10 years if I'm not wrong, never even tried any meat)



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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 4 2020 06:03am)
-Anything in excess is bad for you.
-Dominance is related to meat. Do you even understand basic biology/chemistry? Animal proteins build our muscles
-Mass production is not catastrophic, you either don't understand what the word catastrophic means or are just purposefully being hysterical- like i said i'm glad meat is mass produced so poor people can have some too
-No it wouldn't. Most of the world is eating meat now and not all ecosystems are being destroyed. It's possible to have large farms in the middle of the US while leaving large ecosystems all across the US untouched/preserved.



Literally nothing you just wrote is true or even loosely based in fact.
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Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Aug 4 2020 02:19pm)
ignorance is a bliss. I admire how simple it must be being in your head. proper holiday


you don't need animal proteins to build muscle.
beef production is on the top of the list of things that cause climate changes and global warming
"dominance is related to meat" is by far one of the dumbest things I've read in years and I'm not even trying to insult you, I'm just properly shook if you legit think that has remotely any sense.


"we evolved to eat meat" is funny as well, considering that ever since we were monkeys, till today, we have never in our evolution had any part of our body that makes us a carnivore. teeth, claws, digestion system, none.
funny that your quote above says "do you understand basic biology" while your teeth wouldn't tbe able to chew on a piece of meat unless it was well prepared and cooked, and that very same meat is rotting in your body for weeks before your body completely gets rid of it.
yet the massive biology knowledge in you claims you're a carnivore.
go easy on them wild animals, mate.




btw you're 1 google search away from successful sports names that are vegans / vegetarians / whatever.
here's few from top of my head:
Nate Diaz
Patrik Baboumian
Nimai Delgado (born vegetarian, vegan for past 10 years if I'm not wrong, never even tried any meat)


We are able to digest meat now and we were able to digest meat one hundred thousand years ago when we were hunting for mammoths. You don't need claws when you have a brain big enough to build hunting tools and be able to band together to take down prey 50x your size you dumb fuck. Some species adapted and evolved to have claws, we had brains, that fact doesn't take away from us being omnivores.

You may get away with supplementing your diet with a bunch of expensive alternatives like some athletes do, that doesn't mean everyone can do the same or somehow erases the utility of a wholesome diet which meat is a part of.



Quote (inkanddagger @ Aug 4 2020 02:47pm)
Literally nothing you just wrote is true or even loosely based in fact.


Nope.

Just because your meat consumption constitutes of eating fat dicks doesn't change basic facts we know about our nutritional needs and biology.

I know it'll fall on death ears but here is one of many sources talking about the need animal protein and their efficiency.

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Animal-source foods (e.g., meat, dairy products, egg, poultry, seafood, and other products) contain higher quantities and more balanced proportions of amino acids relative to human tissues, compared with plant-source foods (e.g., rice, wheat, corn, potato, vegetables, cereals, beans, peas, processed soy products, nuts, and seeds). For example, beef contains 63-68% protein on the dry matter basis, but most staple foods of plant origin (except for legumes) have a protein content < 12% (dry matter basis) and are deficient in most amino acids, including lysine, methionine, cysteine, tryptophan, threonine, and glycine. To meet the Institute of Medicine-recommended dietary allowance of methionine plus cysteine by the 70-kg adult human, daily intake of meat, wheat flour, or rice would be 45, 285, or 493 g dry matter, respectively. Thus, consumption of animal products can meet adequate requirements of humans for amino acids, particularly children, while substantially reducing the need for plant-based foods or the ingestion of a large amount of starch. This is important for individuals whose metabolic profiles may be compromised by high intake of digestible carbohydrates. The excessive amount of carbohydrates that would be consumed in wheat flour or white rice can be converted into fat in the body, thereby possibly contributing to the development of obesity, dyslipidemia, and other metabolic disorders. Conversely, adequate intake of lean meat promotes protein synthesis and sustains skeletal-muscle mass and function (including physical strength), while improving insulin sensitivity, ameliorating aging-associated sarcopenia, and reducing white fat accretion.

To date, there are myths about protein nutrition in humans due to inadequate understanding of the science. An ideal human diet would consist of both animal- and plant-source foods in appropriate amounts and proportions, while consuming adequate dietary fiber. Globally, plant- and animal-based foods contribute about 65% and 35% of protein, respectively, in human diets, and the opposite is true in North America. There is evidence that consumption of animal protein at < 65% of total dietary protein cannot meet the optimal requirement of elderly subjects for at least one nutritionally essential amino acid, leading to suboptimal protein nutrition. Proper combinations of large amounts of legumes with cereals could meet the protein requirements of adults with minimal physical activity, but likely not for the optimal growth or development in children.

https://animalscience.tamu.edu/2019/04/01/important-roles-of-animal-protein-in-human-nutrition-and-health/

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We are able to digest meat now and we were able to digest meat one hundred thousand years ago when we were hunting for mammoths. You don't need claws when you have a brain big enough to build hunting tools and be able to band together to take down prey 50x your size you dumb fuck. Some species adapted and evolved to have claws, we had brains, that fact doesn't take away from us being omnivores.

You may get away with supplementing your diet with a bunch of expensive alternatives like some athletes do, that doesn't mean everyone can do the same or somehow erases the utility of a wholesome diet which meat is a part of.





Nope.

Just because your meat consumption constitutes of eating fat dicks doesn't change basic facts we know about our nutritional needs and biology.

I know it'll fall on death ears but here is one of many sources talking about the need animal protein and their efficiency.


https://animalscience.tamu.edu/2019/04/01/important-roles-of-animal-protein-in-human-nutrition-and-health/


I'm a vegetarian and I'm roughly 200 lbs with a 7% BMI. But then again, perhaps I'm different than every other person on the planet. I know I'm for sure different than you, because I'm not an idiot. I look forward to your next post explaining what life is like as an idiot.

This post was edited by Tyrantus on Aug 4 2020 04:12pm
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I'm a vegetarian and I'm roughly 200 lbs with a 7% BMI. But then again, perhaps I'm different than every other person on the planet. I know I'm for sure different than you, because I'm not an idiot. I look forward to your next post explaining what life is like as an idiot.



Thanks for sharing this triviality. I guess I’ll discard all established science on this subject because some privileged vegetarian is doing okay.
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Quote (Tyrantus @ Aug 4 2020 04:11pm)
I'm a vegetarian and I'm roughly 200 lbs with a 7% BMI. But then again, perhaps I'm different than every other person on the planet. I know I'm for sure different than you, because I'm not an idiot. I look forward to your next post explaining what life is like as an idiot.


Lol BMI.

If you used BMI I would be classified as obese at 6 foot 220. What a dog shit example. BMI knowing no other factors means nothing. A simple screening method, nothing more.

That would be like me saying , I eat meat and i'm probably stronger than you so from this example meat is better. Checkmate.

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Quote (Tyrantus @ Aug 4 2020 06:11pm)
I'm a vegetarian and I'm roughly 200 lbs with a 7% BMI. But then again, perhaps I'm different than every other person on the planet. I know I'm for sure different than you, because I'm not an idiot. I look forward to your next post explaining what life is like as an idiot.


Lay off the juice.
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Aug 4 2020 02:19pm)

"we evolved to eat meat" is funny as well, considering that ever since we were monkeys, till today, we have never in our evolution had any part of our body that makes us a carnivore. teeth, claws, digestion system, none.
funny that your quote above says "do you understand basic biology" while your teeth wouldn't tbe able to chew on a piece of meat unless it was well prepared and cooked, and that very same meat is rotting in your body for weeks before your body completely gets rid of it.
yet the massive biology knowledge in you claims you're a carnivore.
go easy on them wild animals, mate.


Humans are not carnivores. Humans are omnivores and evolved to be able to consume large quantities of meat, fish, and animal products. The ability to eat meat played a role in human brain development; meat is a treasure trove of essential amino acids, protein, and calories.

Meat does not sit in your system "rotting" for weeks. Spend more time in your biology textbook and less time reading e-pamphlets put together by PETA.
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Quote (SBD @ Aug 4 2020 05:20pm)
Lol BMI.

If you used BMI I would be classified as obese at 6 foot 220. What a dog shit example. BMI knowing no other factors means nothing. A simple screening method, nothing more.

That would be like me saying , I eat meat and i'm probably stronger than you so from this example meat is better. Checkmate.


But you're not stronger than me, and we both know it.
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