Quote (ssdrmstre @ Jul 19 2020 11:44pm)

Youd go to war for that? You send your son to fight and die for it?

Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 20 2020 10:03am)

What do you want the world to look like 50 years from now? I'd say its certainly in our interest to go to war.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 20 2020 11:09am)

People who are talking about all out war watched too many action movies lol. Any military confrontation should be as a last resort only if they’re the aggressors.

We don’t need to do that, just use economic means to weaken them. Move the factories out of China, strengthen and form partnerships with their neighbors, etc. Japan, India, Taiwan, South Korea all building up their Militaries will discourage Chinese aggression.

Quote (fender @ Jul 20 2020 05:53am)

so your reply to realising how asinine your attempt at overselling america's true power was, is two blatant strawmen? strong 'arguments' there, little buddy.

regarding the first: i explicitly acknowledged the sophistication and supremacy of the USN. you guys are undeniably the best at war (would be embarrassing if you weren't, considering you spend more than the next 7 largest militaries, many of which your allies), is that not enough for your little ego? you'd have a grand old time showing the chinese how those trillions of tax dollars were excellently invested - for bullying small nations without a nuclear arsenal. you'd probably sink a whole lot of 'troop transports', so at least you jingoists would vaporise with a proud feeling in your heart when the nukes drop.

regarding the second: of course it doesn't. that's why china wouldn't go to all-out war with you over iran, despite their close relationship. but that's not the scenario we're discussing here, so i didn't really think it was necessary to explain something so obvious. considering your previous posts, however, i really should have accounted for your inability to do even the simplest kind of critical thinking, as all you did was basically regurgitate navy propaganda videos that made you feel patriotic about pissing away healthcare and education for some exciting new toys...

Quote (Santara @ Jul 20 2020 08:57am)

China isn't going to do something militarily about Taiwan for the same reason we aren't going to get into a shooting war with them over it in the first place: nuclear power. But we're delving into the fantasy world of thought experiments here, where if they did indeed decide to push the issue militarily, that STILL doesn't mean they're going to provoke a nuclear confrontation over it, because MAD cuts both ways. So in the thought experiment world of an armed confrontation over Taiwan, it is still extremely likely that any engagement will be non-nuclear. So no, nukes aren't going to drop, and China will find out just how big the gap still is between the USN and the rest of the world, chump.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 20 2020 11:25pm)

They'd just use tactical nukes on some major coastal cities and Republicans would cheer at the urbanite liberal death count. I'd be willing to bet a Republican government wouldn't even retaliate with nukes if China or Russia just took out Los Angeles and New York. Hell, I bet Republican militia groups would be signing up to go "clean up" any refugees and make sure as many Americans as possible who have a different political stance than them die. You know I'm right.

Quote (Santara @ Jul 21 2020 03:39am)

China doesn't have the capability to hit the US with tactical nukes, they would have to use strategic nukes. They also adhere to a No First Use policy.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 21 2020 08:32am)

Both of those are fantasies.

I also see you dodged. Because I’m right. Republicans want to see people die for not being conservatives. You don’t even care if millions of your own people die in the process. You all are far sicker than the CCP.

Quote (Surfpunk @ Jul 21 2020 07:23am)

TIL Santara is Republican.