Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 16 2020 07:42pm)

I'm pretty sure that the medical attitudes towards transgenderism and academic prejudice against masculinity are exactly what opened the door for this kind of abuse.
As much as the eugenicists of the 1930s eventually enabled Mengele. Does that mean that H.G. Wells and Hellen Keller were in favor of vivisecting jewish twin children?
You open the door and someone walks through it and then goes too far.



Maybe open that DSM-V and tell me if someone can be diagnosed with ODD in a single day of observation, and whether estrogen is a prescribed treatment.



I quoted directly from the civil suit:
https://witnessla.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Estrogen-complaint-Wesley-G-Ouchi.pdf
That's my source. Sorry you were too 'low information' to realize that. Clearly you lack the unique numerous and fast connections of my brain.



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Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 16 2020 04:42pm)

I'm pretty sure that the medical attitudes towards transgenderism and academic prejudice against masculinity are exactly what opened the door for this kind of abuse.
As much as the eugenicists of the 1930s eventually enabled Mengele. Does that mean that H.G. Wells and Hellen Keller were in favor of vivisecting jewish twin children?
You open the door and someone walks through it and then goes too far.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 16 2020 06:46pm)

Definitely. Comet Ping Pong Pizza runs a child sex ring, and Wayfair is trafficking children via overpriced cabinets.

Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 16 2020 06:05pm)

This entire thread is a back and forth on definitions.

They clearly prescribed him estrogen because they thought his testosterone levels were too high and that this was creating problematic behavior. The doctors believed feminizing him was the cure.

Whether this constitutes "gender transition" is besides the point. It's a case of gross child abuse and criminal experimentation predicated on a belief that elevated testosterone levels are something to correct.

The doctors should be criminally charged and be forced to register as sex offenders.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 16 2020 06:58pm)

It's not that his testosterone levels didn't need correcting, they were excessively high and likely were contributing to his aggressive and defiant behavior, it's that they did it without informing the kid, the parents, or allowing refusal of treatment.

This is an informed consent case, not a gender case.

Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 16 2020 07:01pm)

The doctor made the diagnosis of ODD before drawing blood for his hypothesis of high testosterone, and the test shows only slightly elevated levels of testosterone, nothing "excessively high".
The doctor had a theory and went searching for a shred of evidence to support it. Then they forced the sex hormone treatment on the kid with coercion, lies and threats.
There's no credible evidence here that his testosterone levels needed correcting or that he had any neurochemical imbalance at all, and indeed the facts of the case point out he was never treated as a threat to himself or others.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 16 2020 07:07pm)

There are no facts of this case lol

This is a complaint, there has been no discovery, no rebuttal, no facts brought into evidence. You're really trying hard to pretend that the complaint is the full picture.

Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 16 2020 07:31pm)

Im getting a chuckle trying to imagine you applying this same unreasonable skepticism to the next police shooting. We're not allowed to discuss the evidence available to us and work out what we know and dont. Nope we have to treat it like its Alex Jones saying FEMA is turning the frogs gay with 5G.

Quote (Goomshill @ 17 Jul 2020 02:31)

Im getting a chuckle trying to imagine you applying this same unreasonable skepticism to the next police shooting. We're not allowed to discuss the evidence available to us and work out what we know and dont. Nope we have to treat it like its Alex Jones saying FEMA is turning the frogs gay with 5G.