Quote (inkanddagger @ 8 Jul 2020 07:53)

DEFENDING AGAINST VIOLENCE IS ANTI-VIOLENCE. ATTEMPTING TO CANCEL THE CANCEL CULTURE THAT EXISTS BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN VIOLENT CANCEL CULTURE MEANS YOU ARE A REACTIONARY DEFENDING THE STATUS QUO. YOU AREN'T BRAVE. YOU'RE SCARED SHITLESS OF CHANGE.

Like a dumb old racist grandpa.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 7 2020 11:01pm)

Yes, I'm a racist sexist classist transphobic reactionary wealthy white cisgender male and Lord have mercy with the poor motherfucker who's coming to take any of my privilege away. :bonk:

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 7 2020 10:52pm)

But exactly because people are increasingly entrenched in their beliefs is it more important than ever to keep debating, to keep talking to one another. Sure, there's far too much bad-faith discussions in which both sides aren't willing to be persuaded and only care about "winning" the debate. But imho, this is the exact reason why we need a new debate culture in which openness of mind and an appreciation of differing opinions (as long as they satisfy basic consistency requirements) is fostered.

A society which is splintering into hostile camps that don't talk to each other anymore will eventually break apart. Some days ago, I was talking about this state of "Cold Civil War" the United States has been in for many years, if not decades. If openness for differing opinion vanishes completely, it would, in my opinion, be inevitable that this Cold Civil War eventually turns 'hot'. We cannot allow that to happen.

Quote (excellence @ Jul 7 2020 11:47pm)

lmfao. snitches are now being permitted in mainstream life (ie: middle to upper-middle class, mostly privileged lefty domains, industries, and neighborhoods)

these groups forgot the lessons from kindergarten that no one likes a tattletale. and i agree its sad these groups have nothing better to do with their miserable lives


it’s mainly lefties canceling lefties right now my friend. and ease up with the slurs theres a lot of sensitive people trolling this subforum (not me, I dont like slurs but i dont try to police other people’s posts)

i mean come on the pale pasty privileged lefty hordes are descending on the minority playwright who wrote the play Hamilton right now. the guy who went on stage to lecture VP Pence is being targeted as “being a racist who enables the slaveholders”

as if everyone didn’t know the plot of Hamilton’s real life lmfao

anyways popcorn.gif to all

^handcuffs

to your OP the cancel culture like most movements in our lifetime started with good intentions (“lets put pressure on truly hateful people to stfu”) and unfortunately (and predictably) morphed into a frankenstein known as “anyone i don’t agree with needs to be burned at the stake”

Quote (Tyrantus @ Jul 7 2020 11:21pm)

Are you seriously calling people snitches? I have seen you, more than once, boast about reporting someone in this very subsection.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 7 2020 11:20pm)

But isn't this just calling for a moratorium on calling people out for problematic views as opposed to developing a debate culture?

If Person A believes that trans women are women, and Person B believes trans women are NOT women, what exactly is there to debate?

Quote (Handcuffs @ 8 Jul 2020 08:20)

But isn't this just calling for a moratorium on calling people out for problematic views as opposed to developing a debate culture?

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If Person A believes that trans women are women, and Person B believes trans women are NOT women, what exactly is there to debate?

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 8 2020 01:12am)

No, it is not. Calling people out for problematic views is not the same as pressuring their employers to fire them, or pressuring their content host to deplatform them. It honestly baffles me that you and a lot of other left-leaning posters struggle to see this difference.


Most beliefs are not dogmatic, they are held for a reason. Yes, many people are not consciously aware of the reaon why they hold certain beliefs... but debates are exactly what's needed to find out (also for themselves) where they're coming from. If nothing else, it will make most people more self-conscious and thought out.