Can't answer that, but you can't deny the 180 degree shift in a phone booth by most of the mainstream media and many of the authorities that argued for lockdowns.

Serious question, if we see some uptick in Covid-spread in cities that seen large protests leading to deaths do you think those authorities need to be held accountable?

If we don't see that uptick, will you question their reaction to covid and the long term economic damage it has caused? Would that colossal mismanagement sway how you vote?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jun 9 2020 09:26pm

Proof?

No, I don't think there are people who would need to be held accountable in the inevitable increase of Covid-19 cases from protests. I think maintaining the ability to protest is rooted in a Constitutional right in ways that mere gathering at a beach, barber, or restaurant aren't. I can't speak necessarily to the legal difference between the two, but certainly the essence of protesting is very different than those examples.

I think the longer-term handling of Covid-19, starting from our Executive and trickling down from there that has been around for more than 2 months now is more emblematic of poor handling of the response than 1 week of protests.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jun 9 2020 09:31pm

That's what I was asking you for from the start. There haven't even been any recorded events of a child transmitting it to an adult.

Anyway.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8351649/Lockdown-waste-time-kill-saved-claims-Nobel-laureate.html

People who look at this and say "I'm never trusting health experts again" are basically saying "I'm a stupid person". A few health experts revealing that their advice is tainted by politics is not good reason to discount all heath experts. People who think so already had a problem with experts before this incident.

Yup. Protesting is still not a good idea and we're probably going to have more COVID cases because of it. Thankfully, we have WAY more tests and our hospital resources aren't strained so there's way less risk regarding COVID.

People seem to have a short memory with how scary this was in early March. All we had was data from European countries and the death rate seemed quite high. We mostly did the right thing regarding the shutdown and a lot of lives were saved because of it.

Oh, so it's not an epidemiologist or anything like that. I wouldn't take his word as fact given that these are open questions. All data seems to suggest that lockdowns saved lives but there's still quite a bit of uncertainty.

We have universal testing for all patients and we took down the zombie tents.

In Ohio we quarantined and social distanced well and we didn't get slammed like other States.

We also had pretty good leadership throughout the process.

I think the people who are worried about these protest are the same kind of people who last year at this time would be saying rhetoric about people who value safety over freedom deserve neither. It's funny that every time they posted that meme they did not really believe it.

Maybe if they were the ones being oppressed they would feel different.

As long as people go back to work after they leave the streets.... Quarantine is over lol.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 10 2020 05:29am

what a surprise. There is just over and over piled high steaming cesspool of corruption manipulation stupidity and here we are still talking about it like its some news.
Best option is avoid it and just do the best with what you got.

And yet it does show exactly that, the already existing hazard posed by the amount of tainted information being presented to people by popular culture, establishment media and social media. Its not just politically biased health experts penning a ridiculous letter, its talking heads on cable news. Its guests on public radio making the muffled noises one makes with their head that far up their ass. Its the WHO uncritically regurgitating Chicom propaganda as a supposed authority. Its the US's governments official position being laid out so schizophrenically that even once Trump, Fauci & company settled on a definitive plan for stages of re-opening government, it got tossed out the window within a week by everyone at the state and federal level ('member when they said we could only start to reopen after 2 weeks of declining rates?)

NPR had a gem of a reaction by running a segment about why the US public has started to distrust 'experts', by bringing in their own 'expert' who has written a book on the subject who promptly started bloviating about his politically biased dogmatic interpretation. I got a chuckle listening to their lack of self-awareness while I was driving.

The average American isn't going to have the patience and skill to google up the research and wade through scientific articles to dig up the facts of the facts and known unknowns. Instead they'll get buried under a cloud of misinformation. It doesn't do you much good if any given expert you're presented with through the media has a greater-than-not odds of having their head up their ass. Its why every step of the Covid-19 doomsday coverage so far has been so wildly off the mark.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 10 2020 07:34am

#capitalistscience

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 10 2020 07:38am