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Quote (GodSmiter @ Jun 8 2020 03:04am)
Ignorant ass meme, he probably literally pat himself on the back.




Yeah, the truth is often considered "ignorant" by those who don't want to see it. :/
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 7 2020 03:39pm)
You arent - male, 40+, white, uneducated, rural - if you didnt vote for donald trump.

Well the sad truth is i read here that 8% of blacks voted for trump:

https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/exit-polls-who-voted-for-trump-clinton-2016-11?op=1
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37922587

8%


According to this thread apparently only conservative white guys who only like other conservative white guys are the real non-racists and the rest of America are the bigots.

Meanwhile a group of people who can't even say that a particular group of people matter want to insist that all people matter.

Pretty sure /thread

OP: it doesn't surprise me that a child of some nazis doesn't understand discrimination. Apple-tree syndrome.

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According to this thread apparently only conservative white guys who only like other conservative white guys are the real non-racists and the rest of America are the bigots.

Meanwhile a group of people who can't even say that a particular group of people matter want to insist that all people matter.

Pretty sure /thread

OP: it doesn't surprise me that a child of some nazis doesn't understand discrimination. Apple-tree syndrome.


This culture of the division and to "take a stand" ended in giving me nausea.
Ofc it's easier to divide with skin color than social/age/sex, yet all the trump voters active on internet are toxic fucks.

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This culture of the division and to "take a stand" ended in giving me nausea.
Ofc it's easier to divide with skin color than social/age/sex, yet all the trump voters active on internet are toxic fucks.



Wow! That's pretty racist.

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Quote (Skinned @ Jun 6 2020 09:20am)
People who say all lives matter are the problem and tend to be liars by their inability to say specific members of the number set matter. If you cannot say that black lives matter than you cannot say all lives matter without being a liar. The people who want to say all lives matter are denying that police brutality and criminal justice discrimination is a black lives matter and anybody who is saying all lives matter are just trying to distract from the current matter at hand and defend the status quo.

If you want say that black lives matter than don't say that all lives matter because you obviously don't believe it. Nothing worse than being a hypocrite so just own it.

It is no mistake that the people who say all lives matter are authoritarian cheer leaders who wish to keep the perceived benefits from others being treated poorly.


Are you dumb?
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Are you dumb?


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67278491&f=119&p=558611014
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Quote (Ghot @ Jun 8 2020 08:19am)
Wow! That's pretty racist.


What he said wasn't racial. He was describing uneducated low information whites, not all whites.


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Are you dumb?


Speaking of....
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exactly.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 7 2020 06:11pm)
On an individual level, yes, anybody can overcome their circumstances.

However, everybody cannot overcome their circumstances. There simply are not enough jobs or resources for everybody to be successful at once. That some people will fail is not a bug, it's a feature of competitive systems.

So not everybody will succeed, and certain groups are at a disadvantage in that competition. Those groups are ones that have been historically unable to build wealth due to systematic action by the government. Things like red-lining that prevented black people from acquiring home loans and building generational wealth. Things like drug laws that increased sentencing specifically for drugs used by minorities so that the breadwinners of the house would more often go to jail and result in poverty for the rest of the family. Uneven policing so innocent members of that group would sit in jail waiting for a trail and lose their jobs and all their savings even if they come out innocent.

Really the list goes on.

On an individual level it's possible for everybody to overcome their circumstances, but as a group not everybody can overcome them because the system is competitive and resources are limited.


why are you so against personal accountability? the fact that there are black lawyers, judges, business owners, bank presidents, etc, proves that institutional racism is a myth. if the system were stacked against blacks then none would be 'making it'. im sure youll say "oh, but theres not as many". so? that proves nothing, maybe just a disproportionate number arent even trying because theyve been misled to think that the system is stacked against them. this is america, the land of opportunity. there are opportunities to be had for those who work to find them or create them.


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Those groups are ones that have been historically unable to build wealth due to systematic action by the government.


which actions of the government in the past 10-20 years have prevented blacks from attaining wealth?
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exactly.



why are you so against personal accountability? the fact that there are black lawyers, judges, business owners, bank presidents, etc, proves that institutional racism is a myth. if the system were stacked against blacks then none would be 'making it'. im sure youll say "oh, but theres not as many". so? that proves nothing, maybe just a disproportionate number arent even trying because theyve been misled to think that the system is stacked against them. this is america, the land of opportunity. there are opportunities to be had for those who work to find them or create them.




which actions of the government in the past 10-20 years have prevented blacks from attaining wealth?


Well it wasn't 20 years ago....but Joe Biden's crime bill in 1994....

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why are you so against personal accountability? the fact that there are black lawyers, judges, business owners, bank presidents, etc, proves that institutional racism is a myth. if the system were stacked against blacks then none would be 'making it'. im sure youll say "oh, but theres not as many". so? that proves nothing, maybe just a disproportionate number arent even trying because theyve been misled to think that the system is stacked against them. this is america, the land of opportunity. there are opportunities to be had for those who work to find them or create them.

which actions of the government in the past 10-20 years have prevented blacks from attaining wealth?


I just explained why personal accountability is not a factor. In a competitive system with limited resources everybody cannot succeed at once, and since everybody cannot succeed at once institutional things affect the proportion of groups that succeed.

Why are you only interested in the last 10-20 years? Real wealth builds across generations.
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