Knowing someone is going to steal your money does not disqualify theft from being theft.

Pretending massive important differences dont exist between voluntarily agreeing to rent a property and people seizing income regardless of consent is not particularly honest or compelling.

As usual, you are posting a bad faith lost argument.
In this case meant to derail a thread promoting a pro-liberty presidential candidate, who is likely going to be the best option on the ballot in 2020.

you have a choice of a home, and there are millions living at home or with friends for free. you have a choice of job, or no job, millions of people have no jobs. many of them also have no homes. they've made a complicated system of choices to have or not have these things.

your choice to pay taxes is pay them or go to jail. that's it.

if you could pay all taxes, some taxes, or no taxes you'd have a good comparison. but I cant choose just not to pay taxes, I have to choose not to work and therefore not pay taxes. or not own a home and therefore not pay taxes. this isn't the same, 1 doesn't equal 2.

"how can I avoid paying taxes" =/= "can I choose not to pay taxes"

honestly it seems like you think this is your best example, which is really weird. its just bad dude. feel free to reiterate 1 = 2 tho, so I can just log off.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 30 2020 06:15pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/29/justin-amash-could-have-big-impact-2020-presidential-race-how/



At this point I'm not saying it's inevitable it hurts Biden, but I'm worried about it.

Biden running is hurting Amash's chances in important swing states
Biden should drop out.

You are using different standards. By your logic I can't choose to not pay rent because I can't live in the house without paying it. You are selectively applying different standards to my situation versus yours.

You've stopped being consistent for the sake of retaaining an argument.

U can't live there rent free because of the same force that sends me to jail for not passing taxes. U equally gave no choice to squat on a property. Same standard.

O dang ty link



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I can't choose to pay no rent because there's no property left. I can't actually choose to not pay rent for the same reason you can't choose to not pay taxes, there's nowhere left around that doesn't have taxes on it as a condition of occupation.

I can't choose to own a home and not pay for the home because the same force that levies taxes on you kicks me out if I try, and I can't not pay rent for the same reason.

I have to choose to be homeless to not pay rent or for a home. There is no situation where I get to have a place to live and not pay, same as there's no way for you to have a job and not pay.

All the same ways you can not pay taxes also apply to not paying rent, i.e. being supported by somebody who does.



It is literally the exact same system. Again, not hyperbole. It's the same system enforcing both.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 30 2020 06:28pm

You know what's greater theft than taxation? Property. I never agreed to some guy at xyz location having exclusive rights to that land he happens to be on at this tim3. What's to stop me from going over there and hanging out, starting a campfire and roasting marshmallows n shit 🤔

I'm just gonna go back and summarize all of the criticisms and show how they map 1:1 with the housing analogy, because we're getting nowhere

"You consented to rent when you signed the lease"
You consented to taxes when you took the job, knowing there were taxes.

"You were given a choice to live there or not live there"
You were given a choice to live here or not live here, nobody is holding you in the United States and people move all the time. Similarly, you had a choice to work where you worked, and many jobs don't make enough to pay taxes, so you had a choice as well.

"I wasn't given a choice to sign my tax documents, there's force behind me not filing and seizure of my property to pay what they say I owe"
You were given a choice on whether or not to make income, and whether or not to make enough income to qualify for taxation.

"You were given a choice to live there, literally anywhere else, even mooching off of friends/family or being homeless"
Same with making an income

"if you were taken to jail for being homeless you'd have a point"
You will be taken to jail for trespassing, and since there's no property that isn't owned if nobody voluntarily wants you there you will be taken to jail. There's also vagrancy laws, busting of homeless camps, etc. etc.

"you had a choice not to be homeless and you chose a home. you could live in a car, camp in public parks, work out an agreement with your employer in leu of pay, etc. you had options, you just didn't take them."
You had a choice to make an income and own property. You could mooch off somebody, etc. etc. The same options that are available if you don't want to own or rent a home are available if you don't want to make income.

"a system of tax existed before i was alive, i did not consent to it."
Do I even need to say it?

"You've never consented to taxes. You've never been given an option not to pay them."
You have, in the same way you have a choice to be homeless or have a home, you have a choice to have income and property or not have income and property.



I could keep going, but I'm bored. The point is that there is a perfect 1:1 mapping here because it is the exact same system.