Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Apr 13 2020 07:44pm)

Their job is not to lock people in their houses without due process, their job is not to arrest people walking on the beach or camping, their job is not to restrict the right to exercise your religion, their not is not to restrict stores from selling certain items, etc. etc. etc. My rights do not get violated because I don't live in someplace with a crazy ass governor and I understand what my rights are and the minute some power hungry cop tries to enforce something unlawful I politely explain to him that what he thinks he is doing is incorrect and if he insists on stopping me then he will be dealing with a very large lawsuit from a very pissed off asshole lawyer and maybe he should check with his boss before he does anything, then I go on my way.

Quote (thundercock @ Apr 13 2020 08:02pm)

I don't think ANYONE in America is being locked in their homes. I've been able to take my dog to the park with dozens of other people and the cops don't bother us as long as people are spread out (and I live in one of the strictest cities in the entire country). You're allowed to leave your home to exercise, buy groceries, etc. At the end of the day, I don't think there's enough personnel to enforce most of these laws. People are just voluntarily doing it because they are worried about someone in their family contracting the illness.

As for religion, most churches have voluntarily switched to online masses. For those who haven't, I think I agree with you that those people shouldn't be bothered if they decide to put themselves in danger. Ultimately,I don't care about Protestants because their religion is wrong anyway.

Like it or not, governments have supreme control over the economy. I don't particularly like it, but it's perfectly constitutional. It's why some counties ban the sale of alcohol, sex toys, etc. I have no problem with the state saying that scented candle stores should remain closed during a pandemic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_local_government_response_to_the_2020_coronavirus_pandemic

Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Apr 13 2020 05:28pm)

Well you are wrong. There has been and there are. Regardless of whether it happens to anyone in particular, it is happening and it is a violation of the constitution and when its all over it will be remedied by lawyers and the aggrieved making money, and the government finding new ways to bend over the average person so they can make up the difference.

2nd bold: Also wrong. Even commerce doctrine statutes have limitations.

Quote (LA-Leviathan @ 13 Apr 2020 20:28)

Well you are wrong. There has been and there are. Regardless of whether it happens to anyone in particular, it is happening and it is a violation of the constitution and when its all over it will be remedied by lawyers and the aggrieved making money, and the government finding new ways to bend over the average person so they can make up the difference.

2nd bold: Also wrong. Even commerce doctrine statutes have limitations.

Quote (Fooba @ Apr 13 2020 11:59pm)

Mind sourcing? I can't find anything on google about people being locked up in homes within USA. I imagine it's my poor word choice and understanding to what degree you mean that people are being locked in their own house.

Quote (LA-Leviathan @ 14 Apr 2020 06:26)

I believe the particular case I am thinking of was in Kentucky, where there is a gentleman under house arrest with an a guard posted outside his home because someone deemed him a threat for having covid, after leaving the hospital where he was confirmed for something else (so he apparently never had covid to begin with) but the government said so, and he can't question it atm so he remains. Gonna make a great case in a few months.

Quote (LA-Leviathan @ 14 Apr 2020 00:26)

I believe the particular case I am thinking of was in Kentucky, where there is a gentleman under house arrest with an a guard posted outside his home because someone deemed him a threat for having covid, after leaving the hospital where he was confirmed for something else (so he apparently never had covid to begin with) but the government said so, and he can't question it atm so he remains. Gonna make a great case in a few months.

Quote (Fooba @ Apr 14 2020 12:49am)

Found it now. I'm interested to see where it goes. I actually figured there would be a constitutional right around human health and I thought it'd be a counter argument to your point, but I'm not the most politically savvy person. Back to my lurking hole I go now, thanks for the reply.

Quote (LA-Leviathan @ 14 Apr 2020 06:57)

He's going to ram a high powered lawyer up the ass of the government. There are going to be soooooooooo many filings once this shit ends, I would look forward to it but it's all our money anyways it's not like government ever pays for fucking up.