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Apr 13 2020 05:58am
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Apr 12 2020 10:54pm)
:rofl: :bonk:


Trump will leave the economy im the shitter like Bush. The economy hasn't been doing well bases on anything that Trump has done and it would have been much stronger going into this next predicted recession if we had chosen better.

We couldn't have planned the covid thing but we knew an economic downturn was coming and jobs reports for the past two years have been pathetic, all low paying manufacturing jobs and service industry.

At least trump will be able to use Corona virus as a scapegoat.
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Quote (Skinned @ 13 Apr 2020 13:58)
Trump will leave the economy im the shitter like Bush. The economy hasn't been doing well bases on anything that Trump has done and it would have been much stronger going into this next predicted recession if we had chosen better.

We couldn't have planned the covid thing but we knew an economic downturn was coming and jobs reports for the past two years have been pathetic, all low paying manufacturing jobs and service industry.

At least trump will be able to use Corona virus as a scapegoat.


If you truly believe that, you've lost touch with reality.
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Apr 13 2020 06:35am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 13 2020 08:07am)
If you truly believe that, you've lost touch with reality.


Everyone was talking about a mild recession pre-covid. The prevailing opinions were that it would be mild, and families that could miss one small paycheck wouldn't be too affected. Not a 2008 situation.

Not sure what that might be now or if this Covid induced slump will change it at all.

Here is an oldie but goodie:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/16/us-economy-recession-what-to-watch-for

And the history of having a contraction every 11 or 12 years for over 200 years now lol.

If you remember, about 8 months to a year ago i said there would be a recession, it wouldnt be Trump's fault, but i sure was gonna blame him for it here? Some users might remember this.

You just don't read about this.

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Quote (EndlessSky @ Apr 5 2020 11:30pm)
Its a retrovirus, which mutates extremely often. In addition it behaves similar to HIV-1 in that it suppresses the immune system, hence the two-week latency in most individuals.

Imo its going to be more complicated than a one-off fix and a stiff wake up call to everyone who has been neglecting their health.


Wtf am I reading

Not a retrovirus, it’s an RNA virus

Yes, they both start with R
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Apr 13 2020 05:48pm
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Everyone was talking about a mild recession pre-covid. The prevailing opinions were that it would be mild, and families that could miss one small paycheck wouldn't be too affected. Not a 2008 situation.

Not sure what that might be now or if this Covid induced slump will change it at all.

Here is an oldie but goodie:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/16/us-economy-recession-what-to-watch-for

And the history of having a contraction every 11 or 12 years for over 200 years now lol.

If you remember, about 8 months to a year ago i said there would be a recession, it wouldnt be Trump's fault, but i sure was gonna blame him for it here? Some users might remember this.

You just don't read about this.


This doesnt address the stuff you said in your previous post at all though?

You said that "the economy would have been much stronger going into this recession" if there had been better policies and/or if the country had chosen better in 2016, not exactly sure which one you meant, doesnt matter anyway.

It might be up for debate whether the Trump economy was really better than the Obama economy starting in 2011 (after the immediate post-recession rally was over), but it certainly wasnt any worse. Obama, Hillary or any other Democrat would have pursued more or less the same economic policies as Obama did from 2011-2016, so constructing a "with better policy, the economy would have been much stronger going into this recession"-hypothetical to shit on Trump is completely baseless.

More generally speaking, it is a huge stretch by you to claim a "much stronger economy" than the one we had would have been possible. "Much stronger" than "lowest unemployment rates in half a century" is just unrealistic.

Your statement that "the jobs reports for the past two years have been pathtic" is clearly factually wrong and preposterous. Your claim that it was mostly "shitty manufacturing and service" jobs is also highly flawed since manufacturing jobs all around the world tend to be better paying, on average, than service jobs. Many countries, the U.S. included, have been trying to bring back home some industrial base that was outsourced over the previous decades specifically because economists and world leaders realized the importance of industrial jobs.


As I said, the tldr is that the reasons you gave for shitting on Trump's economic performance are delusional. Nothing in your second, more recent post refutes that.

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This doesnt address the stuff you said in your previous post at all though?

You said that "the economy would have been much stronger going into this recession" if there had been better policies and/or if the country had chosen better in 2016, not exactly sure which one you meant, doesnt matter anyway.

It might be up for debate whether the Trump economy was really better than the Obama economy starting in 2011 (after the immediate post-recession rally was over), but it certainly wasnt any worse. Obama, Hillary or any other Democrat would have pursued more or less the same economic policies as Obama did from 2011-2016, so constructing a "with better policy, the economy would have been much stronger going into this recession"-hypothetical to shit on Trump is completely baseless.

More generally speaking, it is a huge stretch by you to claim a "much stronger economy" than the one we had would have been possible. "Much stronger" than "lowest unemployment rates in half a century" is just unrealistic.

Your statement that "the jobs reports for the past two years have been pathtic" is clearly factually wrong and preposterous. Your claim that it was mostly "shitty manufacturing and service" jobs is also highly flawed since manufacturing jobs all around the world tend to be better paying, on average, than service jobs. Many countries, the U.S. included, have been trying to bring back home some industrial base that was outsourced over the previous decades specifically because economists and world leaders realized the importance of industrial jobs.


As I said, the tldr is that the reasons you gave for shitting on Trump's economic performance are delusional. Nothing in your second, more recent post refutes that.


Industrial jobs were important prior to them being outsourced and having all power of those workers taken away through the death of unions. They have been outsourced and brought back when they didn't have to pay as much. It isn't that manufacturing is more important, we never stopped manufacturing, Americans are finally cheap enough to hire again.

And I am stating that someone who knows what they are doing instead of golfing and tweeting might have put us in a better position going into a recession that was predicted. Or at least a good business man and not someone who plays one on television.

Can't say the Trump and the Obama economy, because they are the same economy, and the same economy as the Bush one before it. We will see where Trump leaves it when all is said and done. Hopefully it isn't where people of his party usually leave it :p

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 13 2020 06:08pm
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