0% in, North Carolina called for JOE BIDEN!

JOE-MENTUM is REAL!!!

The timing of it just doesn't add up, particularly for Klobuchar. She already spent campaign money and time campaigning in the Super Tuesday states.

Buttigieg makes more sense. Kill it in the early super white states, drop out, and then use your leverage for a cabinet position or other deal before getting destroyed on Super Tuesday.

Buttigieg politick'ed into the very end and played his hand perfectly. He ran an impressive campaign considering where he started.



Not really.

If the economy remains strong, I see basically no path for Democrats to beat an incumbent with a strong economy.

More 2016-ish turmoil would push the party to a less corporate and more populist position, which I think the party and country needs right now. I think the party needs another devastating defeat.

What policy is Biden running on? What ideas is he championing? He basically has not platform other than he was the VP of a President that Democrats liked. The DNC is force feeding him to voters, much like Clinton.

To be clear, I think he has a higher political floor than Sanders in the 2020 election, but his ceiling is abysmal. Democrats would be nominating another uninspiring, auto-loss candidate.

All that aside, I just want the people to decide the candidate and direction of the party more than the party. The Klobuchar stuff reeks of shenanigans.

They were putting their own future career ambitions first, lol.



Yup, I gotta agree with that. For fender, everyone who opposes his worldview is a "moronic hack voting against his own interests".

there's no reason to strawman me like that. this is not about politicians disagreeing with MY views, but about them not actually addressing the issues and views of the american people. it is 100% possible to disagree with certain policy proposals for 'good-faith reasons' - but that's not at all what i'm talking about here, and i'm pretty sure you know that.

note that i said universal healthcare, not medicare for all. almost every candidate pretends to be in favour of some form of universal coverage, but no establishment democrat has a fleshed out proposal, or even just a clear path to make that happen in a way that could eliminate some of the major drawbacks in the current system. the best they can do is making 'plenty bold' promises of incremental change, or assure people that they are equally 'outraged' about some of the most egregious types of price gouging. at the same time, they are generously supported by the very companies that make a fortune of those 'flaws' in the system, giving them literally millions of 'reasons' to NOT do anything meaningful about them. so given their political record and history, i'd say it's incredibly naive to just buy the empty and unspecific promises, and expect anything to happen.

again, this is not at all about MY views, that's a very lazy and dishonest deflection, this is about the FACT the vast majority of candidates will do absolutely NOTHING about the issues that americans care about, simply because they are funded by the people that got rich by exploiting those issues. and it's pretty disgusting that you would characterise something that is so well documented as some kind of conspiratorial nutjobbery...

BLOOMBERG with the CRITICAL American Samoa win!

Tulsi a very strong 2nd.

Agreed. Amy more so than Pete.

Bloomberg with the steel chair! He takes American Somoa.

Someone needs to make the Jeb Bush winning everything meme except with Bloomberg and American Somoa.

Which 2 fucks said warren lol

Of course her withdrawal was the result of shenanigans. But I dont have an issue with that tbh. She clearly had no path to the nomination, and staying in the race would only have hurt the candidate(s) she's more ideologically aligned with.
Also, I dont see the problem in the DNC trying to get the party to get the nominee who would be better for down-ballot Democratic candidates in November. They should of course not outright cheat, but imho, they dont do that. Bernie and the progressive wing do not have a majority among the primary electorate, no matter how much more enthused his supporters are compared to those of Biden/Klobuchar/Bloomberg.

Simply put, if a majority of the primary voters prefers a moderate candidate, then I see no problem with the DNC making sure that the candidates from the moderate line dont step on each other's feet.

I also disagree with the notion that Biden has no chance against Trump and would be Hillary 2.0. Hillary was a very polarizing figure, half the country already hated her before she even anounced her candidacy. Her own unpopularity cancelled out Trump's unpopularity to a certain degree. There are much less hard feelings toward Biden. Other factors are pointing in Trump's favor, like the advantage of incumbency, a strong economy, the world not having ended under his watch like some pundits predicted, and a more organized and professional campaign. Therefore, I personally rate a potential Trump vs Biden race as close to a tossup despite Biden being much less unpopular than Hillary was in 2016.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 3 2020 06:56pm

Fuck yeah! He's gonna get 3 or 4 of those 6 delegates
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