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Paying teachers more is one of the laziest and shittiest responses to the education problem and whenever i hear a politician utter 'we need to pay them more' i'm immediately opposed to what else they have to say.

It doesn't matter if a teacher makes 40 grand or 70 grand that's not going to change nurture factors that are magnitudes more impactful on academics. I went to a inner city middle school and high school and now i'm getting my MBA while some of my peers are working some shit jobs or selling dime bags. Difference is i had foreign parents who understand the value of education compared to some of my peers who had parents that didn't care when they skipped school or the fact that the kid thought playing basketball or football was the only good reason to show up to school. No matter how much you pay a teacher those factors wont change.


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"These spoiled American kids" lol. We know.

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"These spoiled American kids" lol. We know.


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"We should pay teachers like doctors, and doctors whatever sheckles comrade bernie's healthcare plan can afford" lol. We, no.
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Feb 26 2020 10:17am
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InB4 he thinks you're serious about that, too.


nice try. your intentions are pure, but sorry, he clearly IS. it's a very consistent and reliable theme: every time he's that mad, he tries to nitpick spelling, semantics, or choice of words - usually unsuccessfully, and also rather ironic considering his own struggles with his native language ("its" and "it's" he reliably gets wrong, "worth" and "worse" is a new one though).

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its interesting that you just continue to tell me that im being serious when i not only said outright i was joking but baked it into the cake with my post as heavily as i could. i sourced my wife lol.

rationalize has a z in it, im sure it comes as a shock to this sub that u have a hard time spelling that word.


british english spelling. google it. i use it all the time...
reminds me of that idiot who ran out of arguments and took issue with either "colour" or "honour", don't remember which one exactly - but damn were they mad when i taught them...

that said, i already told you that even if i gave you that all of your hackery was just light-hearted 'jokes', it still doesn't change the fact they ALL aim at the same direction. so it's really not all that important how you prefer to label them, the intention is very obvious. also, you're taking the typical american, completely unnuanced approach to politics, where you're either for or against a candidate. you know it's not illegal to give someone credit for policies, ideas, or suggestions - even if you generally disagree with, or even dislike a candidate, right?
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Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 26 2020 11:16am)
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"We should pay teachers like doctors, and doctors whatever sheckles comrade bernie's healthcare plan can afford" lol. We, no.


Doctors work too hard. My friend pays over 2k a month on student loans and will forever lol. Even NPs I talk to have 200-300k debt lol. This current system is so broke.

If socialized medicine is so bad then why aren't there many French, German, British, swedish, etc doctors in the American system? Why are their outcomes better and costs lower? Why should Americans keep dying for Aetna, Anthem, and Humana?

I'm supporting Bernie, because the Democrats might just need a Supermajority Trump rammed down their throat to get it together and stop producing GOP-lite candidates by 2024.

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Doctors work too hard. My friend pays over 2k a month on student loans and will forever lol. Even NPs I talk to have 200-300k debt lol. This current system is so broke.

If socialized medicine is so bad then why aren't there many French, German, British, swedish, etc doctors in the American system? Why are their outcomes better and costs lower? Why should Americans keep dying for Aetna, Anthem, and Humana?


geeez. he was just 'joking'. completely ignore the underlying message behind the obvious joke, because you won't get a reply to that anyway, just a snarky response how you must have missed the 'joke' because you addressed the actual issue.
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Quote (fender @ Feb 26 2020 10:17am)
nice try. your intentions are pure, but sorry, he clearly IS. it's a very consistent and reliable theme: every time he's that mad, he tries to nitpick spelling, semantics, or choice of words - usually unsuccessfully, and also rather ironic considering his own struggles with his native language ("its" and "it's" he reliably gets wrong, "worth" and "worse" is a new one though).



british english spelling. google it. i use it all the time...
reminds me of that idiot who ran out of arguments and took issue with either "colour" or "honour", don't remember which one exactly - but damn were they mad when i taught them...

that said, i already told you that even if i gave you that all of your hackery was just light-hearted 'jokes', it still doesn't change the fact they ALL aim at the same direction. so it's really not all that important how you prefer to label them, the intention is very obvious. also, you're taking the typical american, completely unnuanced approach to politics, where you're either for or against a candidate. you know it's not illegal to give someone credit for policies, ideas, or suggestions - even if you generally disagree with, or even dislike a candidate, right?


ive shouted down right wingers who put forward voucher programs as a fix to the american education system plenty, this is the democratic debate thread not the GOP debate thread. and i already said yang was good, warren is decent, and the rest are a pack of all the same on education.

and ive said many times Bernie's end goal of a single payer system is fine by me, its the pace he gets there and his lies to the public on how realistic that pace is that i dont like.

but sure keep strawmanning to shill for bernie, that'll teach me.

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Doctors work too hard. My friend pays over 2k a month on student loans and will forever lol. Even NPs I talk to have 200-300k debt lol. This current system is so broke.

If socialized medicine is so bad then why aren't there many French, German, British, swedish, etc doctors in the American system? Why are their outcomes better and costs lower? Why should Americans keep dying for Aetna, Anthem, and Humana?


see above. you guys use all the nuance of a coma patient on healthcare.

Quote (fender @ Feb 26 2020 10:30am)
geeez. he was just 'joking'. completely ignore the underlying message behind the obvious joke, because you won't get a reply to that anyway, just a snarky response how you must have missed the 'joke' because you addressed the actual issue.


i reply honestly to skinned because he's an honest man, and when i use humor he's able to sense it and replies in kind. he's.....not you.

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ive shouted down right wingers who put forward voucher programs as a fix to the american education system plenty, this is the democratic debate thread not the GOP debate thread. and i already said yang was good, warren is decent, and the rest are a pack of all the same on education.

and ive said many times Bernie's end goal of a single payer system is fine by me, its the pace he gets there and his lies to the public on how realistic that pace is that i dont like.

but sure keep strawmanning to shill for bernie, that'll teach me.



see above. you guys use all the nuance of a coma patient on healthcare.


More of a broadcast to win the hearts and minds of the trailer pard.
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Feb 26 2020 10:32am
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More of a broadcast to win the hearts and minds of the trailer pard.


im not sure if "trailer pard" is a genius response or brilliant accident. either way, bravo.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 26 2020 10:34am)
We've used that joke for years. Where ya been?


honestly no idea lol.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 26 2020 10:32am)
im not sure if "trailer pard" is a genius response or brilliant accident. either way, bravo.


We've used that joke for years. Where ya been?
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