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Jan 8 2020 11:02am
Hypocritical War machine continues

Nothing to do with Iran general being a “bad guy” btw, has to do with the method. You gonna drone every “bad guy” in the world even if they are public servants or military in their respective country?

We are potentially going to war with Iran cuz they are “bad people”? How many civilians do you think will die in the process, and what specifically do we have to gain. How many American lives? How much American resources wasted that could be spent at home? Decreased terror attacks in Iraq? Iraq voted for us to leave their country also lmao

This post was edited by Bazi on Jan 8 2020 11:04am
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Hypocritical War machine continues

Nothing to do with Iran general being a “bad guy” btw, has to do with the method. You gonna drone every “bad guy” in the world even if they are public servants or military in their respective country?

We are potentially going to war with Iran cuz they are “bad people”? How many civilians do you think will die in the process, and what specifically do we have to gain. Decreased terror attacked in Iraq? Iraq voted for us to leave their country also lmao


Yup
But meets with kim
The irony
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Jan 8 2020 11:13am
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Jan 8 2020 11:04am)
Yup
But meets with kim
The irony



NK, active discrimination and torture
China, active genocide
Saudi Arabia, finances majority of terrorism on the planet

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Jan 8 2020 11:20am
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NK, active discrimination and torture
China, active genocide
Saudi Arabia, finances majority of terrorism on the planet

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Much different circumstances, the U.S. wouldn't fuck with China because of the financial impact it would have. Not to mention they have a MUCH stronger military and actual allies unlike Iran....

Iran is essentially a loner and would be crazy to declare war against the U.S. anyway.
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Jan 8 2020 11:40am
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Much different circumstances, the U.S. wouldn't fuck with China because of the financial impact it would have. Not to mention they have a MUCH stronger military and actual allies unlike Iran....

Iran is essentially a loner and would be crazy to declare war against the U.S. anyway.



So the requirements to declare war are “loner” and “bad guy”

I can prepare a list of countries that have these 2 requirements if you wish

Regarding your military comparisons, Iran’s military is much stronger than that of Iraq, good thing we handled that flawlessly...rather handling that flawlessly


Edit regarding financial impact

Also good thing that since Iraq was a small weak country (smaller than Iran, which you are also calling small so by definition), there aren’t/werent any financial implications of that invasion. ~20 years later everything is going as planned. Iran should go just as smooth since it’s actually more powerful than Iraq.

Difficult for my fingers to write this logic train out lol

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Quote (Bazi @ Jan 8 2020 12:40pm)
So the requirements to declare war are “loner” and “bad guy”

I can prepare a list of countries that have these 2 requirements if you wish

Regarding your military comparisons, Iran’s military is much stronger than that of Iraq, good thing we handled that flawlessly...rather handling that flawlessly


Edit regarding financial impact

Also good thing that since Iraq was a small weak country (smaller than Iran, which you are also calling small so by definition), there aren’t/werent any financial implications of that invasion. ~20 years later everything is going as planned. Iran should go just as smooth since it’s actually more powerful than Iraq.

Difficult for my fingers to write this logic train out lol



Tldr US are hypocritical
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Jan 8 2020 12:38pm
Fired 12 missiles

All missed target

If they can’t even fire missiles a few hundred miles accurately, they have zero chance of surviving a war against America.

Wasting time over there imo tho, should be drone striking Mexican drug cartel players that would actually have an influence here in America.
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Jan 8 2020 12:44pm
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Because im on my phone while taking care of my baby daughter, i dont have time to google sources at this time. Go ahead and give it a google, you will find plenty of examples.



Yes, plenty of them that are taken from cnn and redacted for the click bait.
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I'd prob say Iran deliberately aimed those missiles in order to try and avoid casualties.
It's way for them to show they are willing to do SOMETHING at least, while at the same time avoiding killing anyone / real escalation.

If they had killed US troops you know we would have flattened them out.
Now it seems Trump is "willing" to de-escalate the situation as he feel he "won" this standoff. Seems like USA will "get away with murder".

Not to say killing the general was a good idea, but it's not like he got killed inside Iranian territory, and he was considered an avid terrorist in the region by the US intelligence and he was "supposedly" plotting and proxy-leading against US targets locally.
I don't feel any remorse for him he had it coming, it was just a bad situation either way.


The way I see it, Trump is just a baffoon following advise and directions from actual "so called experts".

Long ago in 1941, Tehran declared neutrality in the world war, Russia and Britain jointly invaded and occupied the country to secure control of its oil reserves. after that in 1953, when a democratically elected prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh, dared nationalize Iranian oil (which had been largely under Western corporate control) the CIA coordinated a coup with MI6 to overthrow the government. The dictatorial Shah was promptly put in power and ruled with an iron fist for the next 26 years. America had armed, funded, and backed this brutal regime for two and a half decades.


Middle East is simple to understand, but not to fix. It’s a religious war between Muslim Sunni (Saudi Arabia) and Muslim Shia (Iran).

The past two decades the US has been hooked to Saudi Arabia with the petrol dollar. We do what the Saudis want, if they sell their oil in US dollars. The world economy hinges off this after we left the gold standard in the 70’s with the help of Henry Kissinger.
Saudi’s have also given us more money to invade or help isolate countries IRAQ, Libya, Syria, and Yemen. The US has been for hire.

What gets more complicated...is Afghanistan, Israel, Hezbollah, and ISIS, they are all players in the region with allegiances and motives.
It’s a quagmire, that we are somehow stuck in.

We (the U.S.) have so many bases in the region we also surround IRAN. They feel threatened, but somehow we don’t talk about this
Always look at who benefits from a military action...more than likely those are the people in control.

This action mostly benefits the Saudis.



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