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#41
Dec 12 2019 03:31pm
Quote (dro94 @ 12 Dec 2019 20:14)
Not voting. We've got a broken FPTP system where your vote only matters in marginal constituencies which total around 95 out of 650, as well as awful choices of leaders and policies from the main parties.

It's certainly going to be either a hung parliament or a Tory majority. My slight preference is a hung parliament as it increases the likelihood of a second referendum and, as a result, a reversal of the Brexit process.


Then spoil your ballot in protest. Jesus fucking christ I can't even with people who don't vote.
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#42
Dec 12 2019 04:02pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Dec 12 2019 09:31pm)
Then spoil your ballot in protest. Jesus fucking christ I can't even with people who don't vote.


There is no difference between spoiling a ballot and not voting - it amounts to the same thing. People died for our right to vote, which includes the right to not vote.

e/ exit poll suggests a Conservative majority with 368 seats (an increase of 50), labour only on 191 seats. HUGE loss for Labour.

This post was edited by dro94 on Dec 12 2019 04:02pm
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#43
Dec 12 2019 04:18pm
Quote (dro94 @ 12 Dec 2019 23:02)
There is no difference between spoiling a ballot and not voting - it amounts to the same thing. People died for our right to vote, which includes the right to not vote.

e/ exit poll suggests a Conservative majority with 368 seats (an increase of 50), labour only on 191 seats. HUGE loss for Labour.


RIP Corbyn if these exit polls prove accurate. I really dont see how he could retain his leadership after such a disaster, no matter how many loyalists among the rank and file he still has...
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#44
Dec 12 2019 04:28pm
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RIP Corbyn if these exit polls prove accurate. I really dont see how he could retain his leadership after such a disaster, no matter how many loyalists among the rank and file he still has...


Crobyn should have walked years ago and I called it time and time again. The far left Corbynista losers who were shouting down Lib Dems, Greens, and 'centrists' (more like centre leftists) are almost as much to blame as the tories as they failed to build a left alliance. He was never going to win and only had the support of young voters, but they were too blind to recognise that.
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#45
Dec 12 2019 04:32pm
That's massive. Surely corbyn has to walk now. That's an absolute embarrassing defeat.
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#46
Dec 12 2019 04:37pm
Quote (dro94 @ 12 Dec 2019 23:02)
There is no difference between spoiling a ballot and not voting - it amounts to the same thing. People died for our right to vote, which includes the right to not vote.

e/ exit poll suggests a Conservative majority with 368 seats (an increase of 50), labour only on 191 seats. HUGE loss for Labour.


obviously a blow to principled remainers and the younger generations in general, but still: that's a great outcome imo. it's time for a no deal brexit, the sooner the better. time to end this unfortunate marriage, good riddance!
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#47
Dec 12 2019 04:59pm
Imho, this paves the way for Johnson's version of Brexit, which is 'harder' than May's, but significantly less 'hard' than a no deal brexit.
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Dec 12 2019 05:06pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 12 Dec 2019 23:59)
Imho, this paves the way for Johnson's version of Brexit, which is 'harder' than May's, but significantly less 'hard' than a no deal brexit.


he should go all in with this mandate, you said it yourself. no deal brexit now please, everything else will lead to centuries of negotiations, enough is enough, leave means leave.
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#49
Dec 12 2019 05:17pm
isn't that just par for the course for Brits? China, india, africa, etc.

Promise you'll leave then spend a century negotiating.
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#50
Dec 12 2019 05:21pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 12 2019 10:59pm)
Imho, this paves the way for Johnson's version of Brexit, which is 'harder' than May's, but significantly less 'hard' than a no deal brexit.


Could potentially soften on the back of that predicted majority. If he grabs a 70+ seat majority he wouldn't have to dance to the extreme brexit tory wing.
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