If you think taxation is theft you are an anarchist, society was built on taxation.
You can pay no tax and go live in a cabin in the woods off grid.

I do think income tax needs to go entirely.
Profit taxes, no loopholes.

Society was built on taxation....so like the US prior to early 1900s? lol...you're a dumbass but hey who didn't already know lefties dumb.

You mean 1861?
Exactly what part of modern america existed prior to 1861?
Even if you take the beginning as 1909, look at the leaps and bounds american society grew by in that era.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Dec 4 2019 08:30pm

No, but private property is.

Yes. Taking 20%+ of your labor is theft.

This post was edited by timmayX on Dec 4 2019 09:35pm

Nobody is taking labor

Yes, they are. You are performing labor to earn currency to live. By taking your currency, they are taking the credit of your labor.

There should be income tax, but it shouldn't be as high as it is or be used for as many disparate things as it is.

Just your employer.

You go to work, earn enough value to pay yourself, then you work longer to earn surplus labor that is what pays for the other factors of production such as rent, interest, entrepreneurship, etc.

The bottom line is that an employer never pays an employee, an employee pays his and her self with the value they create and the surplus value they create necessarily fuels the rest.

Again, to reiterate, an employer never pays an employee, the employee pays the employer.

That isn't to say entrepreneurship is not important, I'm not minimizing it...but work has to be done.

This post was edited by Skinned on Dec 4 2019 10:03pm

It is the capitalist who buys the means of production and the worker that enables those means. In this relationship more is produced together than either can produce alone and oay for both goes up.

Until there are excess workers, at which point the capitalist lowers wages and the worker stops making more than he could before, but now the system has built itself around the capitalist so the worker can no longer make anything alone and all workers suffer from the resulting unequal power dynamic.

He's lying thats how lol