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The pro-war Saudi pawn Trump will be starting another undeclared war in the Middle East, based on a fabricated "Iranian attack" on Saudi oil infrastructure.

So much for the anti-war right.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/20/trump-responds-alleged-iranian-attack-troops-middle-east/2391415001/




More evidence points to Iranian cruise missiles, drones in attack on Saudi oilfield

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/09/more-evidence-points-to-iranian-cruise-missiles-drones-in-attack-on-saudi-oilfield/
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Not an American oil field.

If he deploys men and women to saudi Arabia without Congress and Senate with no treaty dictating it like the Libya situation it could be an impeachable offence, and I'm okay with impeaching this treasonous bastard.

Saudi Arabia is one of the most illiberal places on Earth. Their citizens also flew planes into the World Trade Center.

I know you conservatives like to go soft on terrorism....9/11 happened under a GOP president and said president never even prioritized catching the guy who did it. But you will never forget? Invading Iraq for Halliburton money? Me either.

For the neocons? Line em all up and gun em all down. Or send them to Saudi Arabia to swear and bleed for foreigner's wealth.

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Not an American oil field.

If he deploys men and women to saudi Arabia without Congress and Senate with no treaty dictating it like the Libya situation it could be an impeachable offence, and I'm okay with impeaching this treasonous bastard.




It seems.... that if Trump drinks a Pepsi, it's an impeachable offense. If he combs his hair the wrong way, it's an impeachable offense... etc.
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It seems.... that if Trump drinks a Pepsi, it's an impeachable offense. If he combs his hair the wrong way, it's an impeachable offense... etc.


I've never penalized him for his terrible combover. It is strange you respect someone so unworthy of admiration from a fellow man.

I don't think Congress will approve.

It makes me resentful as a veteran how little soldier's lives are valued to most Americans. But they thank you for your service.

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I've never penalized him for his terrible combover. It is strange you respect someone so unworthy of admiration from a fellow man.

I don't think Congress will approve.




Iirc there was a law passed a while back, (long before Trump) that the pres didn't need Congress, for something like this.
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Iirc there was a law passed a while back, (long before Trump) that the pres didn't need Congress, for something like this.


What law was passed that a president doesn't need Congress to deploy troops?

There are about six ways laws are made.

The way the president can create law by himself is signing international treaties, which become law, and since any given president is the SOLE person in charge of foreign policy, they can create law this way with no other branch being involved. An example of this would be Obama's controversial actions in blocking Russian aircraft in Lybia to let Qaddafi's citizens do what they really wanted to do to him.

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What law was passed that a president doesn't need Congress to deploy troops?




I don't remember. But I DO remember Congress getting all huffy about Trump possibly going into N Korea 1.5 years ago. That's when I heard about the law. It seems that a long ways before then, the govt. decided that waiting on Congress to argue about deploying troops... took too damn long, so they enacted some law that the Pres could deploy troops if needed.

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It seems.... that if Trump drinks a Pepsi, it's an impeachable offense. If he combs his hair the wrong way, it's an impeachable offense... etc.



It seems... that if Obama drank a Pepsi, he was a terrorist. If he cut his hair in a way you didn’t like, he was a Muslim... etc.


You’re so blinded by your own prejudices and will latch onto anything as long as it fits your personal agenda.

I think you’d do well with some of that universal education them damn libs have been talking about.

This post was edited by IchBinDaddy on Sep 21 2019 06:20am
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I don't remember. BNut I DO remember CVongress getting all huffy about Trump possibly going into N Korea 1.5 years ago. That's when I heard about the law. It seems that a long ways before then, the govt. decided that waiting on Congress to argue about deploying troops... took too damn long, so they enacted some law that the Pres could deploy troops if needed.


No law was passed by Congress surrendering any of its power to the Executive.

Last time any law like that was passed is when senators became eligible for direct election by citizens.

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No law was passed by Congress surrendering any of its power to the Executive.

Last time any law like that was passed is when senators became eligible for direct election by citizens.




Well... I know the law was quoted numerous times by numerous agencies and media sources, back when the BS first started with N Korea, after Trump took office.

After Trump won the election, and N Korea started getting antsy, Congress was seriously upset about that law. They even tried to change it without proper methods, but couldn't because of the Senate.
I KNOW I posted reuters articles at the time, with that information in there.


/e The topic was War with North Korea.

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