Quote (Neptunus @ Sep 22 2019 11:07am)
The problem is that the attitude is not open towards discussion. All you get back when you ask whether there is a possibility for differences is "lol no look at this and this lol". I'm just puzzled by the intensity with which some men (sometimes women) oppose any suggestion of a possible inequality. The histrionic shit you see online you can just ignore, tho.
It's true that the legal rules and rights are essentially the same, but what is debated here are the apparent differences in advantages based on gender. Suicide rates of men is one such thing, over-representarion of women in low-pay jobs is another. What is it that leads people who are free and equal on paper to different outcomes in general when gender is the variable? There have been no proper exhaustive explanations and this is what modern feminism is about. It's possible that biology has something to do with it, but biology hasn't really been a good predictor of behaviour in our species over the course of history. It's also possible that it's deeply rooted in culture or attitudes (again, the reasons thereof aren't properlt explained)
You say you won't go into arguments the you proceed to "drop some facts" on me? This is the weird part. You only want a one-sided discussion, based on this.
Quote (Knoppie @ Sep 22 2019 11:08am)
The link given doesn't force men to give up positions. The "you will lose your job", is a meme angle on the issue, to get men scared... The fuck them, if they want to be CEO, the can do that by starting their own company, is sexist in nature. They can be CEO in the company they work. Having a partial old girls network, combined with role models in the company does help. Now if countries need to apply temporary discriminatory actions in order to help create an old girls network, complementing the old boys network differs a bit from country to country.. However.. Norway's seems so successful that our right wing government is thinking about applying it. Making the article alreay a bit outdated ;)
Quoted from article
"In much of western Europe, such efforts follow
a decade-long push by governments. In 2008 Norway obliged listed companies to reserve at least 40% of their director seats for women on pain of dissolution. In the following five years more than a dozen countries set similar quotas at 30% to 40%. In Belgium, France and Italy, too,
firms that fail to comply can be fined, dissolved or banned from paying existing directors. Germany, Spain and the Netherlands prefer soft-law quotas, with no sanctions. Britain opted for guidelines."
You guys don't even read the article. It's your opinion on the matter, cool. Let's agree to disagree I guess