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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 13 2019 03:16pm)
Confirmation you didn't read.


confirmation that you don't understand english very well.

let me try again in very simple terms.

smoking cigs bad, very very bad. many cancer, many heart attack. lungs no work good, lungs work bad.

smoking vape nicotine not good, but not very very bad. worse for child.

smoking cigs = 100 bad, smoking vape = 20 bad. 100 bad = 5x 20 bad. 5x 20 bad = very very bad = none good. 20 bad - 100 bad = -80 bad = some good.
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confirmation that you don't understand english very well.

let me try again in very simple terms.

smoking cigs bad, very very bad. many cancer, many heart attack. lungs no work good, lungs work bad.

smoking vape nicotine not good, but not very very bad. worse for child.

smoking cigs = 100 bad, smoking vape = 20 bad. 100 bad = 5x 20 bad. 5x 20 bad = very very bad = none good. 20 bad - 100 bad = -80 bad = some good.


Trash talking will not save your face.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 13 2019 03:40pm)
Trash talking will not save your face.


Plastic surgery won't save yours.
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Plastic surgery won't save yours.




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Plastic surgery won't save yours.


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We were talking about exponential amount of vaping users among American teens population
Unfortunately the only thing you do is dodging the point by talking about normal, old, cigs - or by posting pity animated gifs following some son-of-a-rat behavior.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Sep 13 2019 03:18pm
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Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 13 2019 10:15pm)
i've been doing nothing but discussing the arguments presented.

a slight risk yes. a threat worth losing sleep over, nah. and far far far far far better than smoking cigs? absolutely.

most of what you've posted is speculation, ala, "what if a foreign govt attacks us through our vapes" or "what if a future not yet created drug is vaped and THINGS happen". not much to discuss with wild speculation.


You're doing a rather good job at promoting smoking e-cigs..

Making me wonder..

TheSnipa.. do you smoke ?
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Quote (Knoppie @ Sep 13 2019 04:18pm)
You're doing a rather good job at promoting smoking e-cigs..

Making me wonder..

TheSnipa.. do you smoke ?


i like many people, hundreds of thousands to millions, stopped smoking cigarettes by vaping. my lung capacity has been drastically increased and all of my blood pressure and such tests have improved.

lately i'll use my Blu brand Juul knock off a few times while driving too and from work. so rarely currently.

but overall i'm seeing that the risks of vaping are mostly for youths, whom it is already illegal to sell or use nicotine products. all of the risks for vaping are commonly held between vaping and cigs. but without the nastier effects of smoking cigs. one is simply far far worse for you.

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We were talking about exponential amount of vaping users among American teens population
Unfortunately the only thing you do is dodging the point by talking about normal, old, cigs - or by posting pity animated gifs following some son-of-a-rat behavior.


yeah like i said, speculation.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Sep 13 2019 03:25pm
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Going to a hospital is more deadly than vaping
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Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 13 2019 11:23pm)
i like many people, hundreds of thousands to millions, stopped smoking cigarettes by vaping. my lung capacity has been drastically increased and all of my blood pressure and such tests have improved.

lately i'll use my Blu brand Juul knock off a few times while driving too and from work. so rarely currently.

but overall i'm seeing that the risks of vaping are mostly for youths, whom it is already illegal to sell or use nicotine products. all of the risks for vaping are commonly held between vaping and cigs. but without the nastier effects of smoking cigs. one is simply far far worse for you.

Unfortunately the only thing you do is dodging the point by talking about normal, old, cigs - or by posting pity animated gifs following some son-of-a-rat behavior.



Sometimes when you're personally involved you're clinging on a bit longer to the personal argument without finding a nuance in the more national/global perspective. Can somewhat understand it, and mostly like the honesty there ;) Ofc, e-sigs are a way better alternative, I'd like to keep seeing it as such.

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Quote (Knoppie @ Sep 13 2019 04:31pm)
Sometimes when you're personally involved you're clinging on a bit more to the personal argument without finding a nuance in the more national/global perspective. Can somewhat understand it, and mostly like the honesty there ;) Ofc, e-sigs are a way better alternative, I'd like to keep seeing it as such.


i dont support banning anything unless it has fatal consequences. this applies to both things i use and dont use. my bias, which exists, doesnt factor into my position. if it doesnt kill you or debilitate you i'm for it being legal. i like freedom. and since its bad for kids i'm fine with it being an 18+ product.
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