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Aug 10 2019 09:41am
I'm really not a big conspiracy person.
I don't think someone intentionally arranged something for him to die. That seems like a bit much to me.

I think realistically, if a person is dead set on suicide, it can be hard to prevent. As, eventually, they will likely have access to the means to do so. I think that since this person wasn't in custody for that long I believe, that this was possibly a mistake, but they likely had to follow policy. He likely was on suicide watch, after a while, was reevaluated, and they had to put him back into a more normal jail environment.

The reality is, this case likely would have gone on for a year. You can't keep somebody under suicide watch for a year if after a period of time they are not displaying signs of going to commit suicide. Eventually, you will have to give them access to other items, clothes/blankets.

Additionally, correctional facilities are understaffed, they can't have a staff member just watch a person for 24 hours without their eyes ever leaving the screen.

I agree with the other person about the no spots for wedges to be formed, meaning, beds that are straight to the ground, toilets straight to the ground. But so many correctional facilities are not like that. These are places that I believe could also likely use some more resources which they likely are not getting.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Aug 10 2019 09:43am
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Jesus, this was Jeffrey Epstein. He's kind of high profile for this all be a mistake you moran.

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Jesus, this was Jeffrey Epstein. He's kind of high profile for this all be a mistake you moran.


You can't even spell moron so. Lol.
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Aug 10 2019 09:47am
Everybody finds it suspicious anyway. IMO the weird part is this kind of people after such a long time hurting others (he was 66!) are rarely suicide [themselves].
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It was a joke, much like your shitty post about Jeffrey Epstein actually committing suicide a week after his first suicide attempt. Yea, it was all a mistake. Nothing to see here! Elite pedophile ring leader who was blackmailing the entire U.S. congress on behalf of Israel is now dead now. Oops, too bad.
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It was a joke, much like your shitty post about Jeffrey Epstein actually committing suicide a week after his first suicide attempt. Yea, it was all a mistake. Nothing to see here! Elite pedophile ring leader who was blackmailing the entire U.S. congress on behalf of Israel is now dead now. Oops, too bad.


Just because he's dead doesn't mean there isn't traces of evidence to lead to other individuals involved with this case.
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Aug 10 2019 09:53am
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Cell mate was a murdering cop lol


People on suicide watch don't have cell mates.

People on suicide watch also don't have access to the things they could potentially hang themselves with. Hell, even the hospital type gowns they're given to wear are of a very easily ripped fabric, to prevent just such a scenario.

Edit: That seems awfully convenient that he supposedly wasn't on suicide watch (per Goom's link above)

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I'm really not a big conspiracy person.
I don't think someone intentionally arranged something for him to die. That seems like a bit much to me.

I think realistically, if a person is dead set on suicide, it can be hard to prevent. As, eventually, they will likely have access to the means to do so. I think that since this person wasn't in custody for that long I believe, that this was possibly a mistake, but they likely had to follow policy. He likely was on suicide watch, after a while, was reevaluated, and they had to put him back into a more normal jail environment.

The reality is, this case likely would have gone on for a year. You can't keep somebody under suicide watch for a year if after a period of time they are not displaying signs of going to commit suicide. Eventually, you will have to give them access to other items, clothes/blankets.

Additionally, correctional facilities are understaffed, they can't have a staff member just watch a person for 24 hours without their eyes ever leaving the screen.

I agree with the other person about the no spots for wedges to be formed, meaning, beds that are straight to the ground, toilets straight to the ground. But so many correctional facilities are not like that. These are places that I believe could also likely use some more resources which they likely are not getting.


not if they are incarcerated and already failed a suicide attempt shortly before.

this was not just some random junkie, locked away for exposing their genitals to people in the park, this was the highest profile case in america currently, with severe political implications, and strong connections to the rich and powerful.
if it was possible for him to cut a deal with prosecutors that kept him out of jail for 6 days of the week during his laughable 13 month sentence, it sure as hell should be possible to make sure he doesn't kill himself. yes, it requires some effort and care, but it's not exactly rocket science...
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Aug 10 2019 09:56am
He about as dead as Tupac and Michael Jackson
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not if they are incarcerated and already failed a suicide attempt shortly before.

this was not just some random junkie, locked away for exposing their genitals to people in the park, this was the highest profile case in america currently, with severe political implications, and strong connections to the rich and powerful.
if it was possible for him to cut a deal with prosecutors that kept him out of jail for 6 days of the week during his laughable 13 month sentence, it sure as hell should be possible to make sure he doesn't kill himself. yes, it requires some effort and care, but it's not exactly rocket science...


I'm simply saying the correctional facility likely had to follow a policy, which placed Epstein off of suicide watch.
This gave Epstein the opportunity to do this. I agree that since he had a suicide attempt, this likely shouldn't have happened this soon.

But. The people that think this was some conspiracy of senators/some rich turds getting involved with a correctional facility and arranging for this to happen. I have my doubts on that.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Aug 10 2019 10:04am
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