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Jul 29 2019 02:29pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 29 2019 02:37pm)
You’re both right of course. The cops kill black men with guns because they don’t like seeing equality in the streets. Cops exist to defend the property rights of the rich. Armed minorities threaten the status quo. Poor armed whites have generally been stupid enough to be duped into defending the entrenched wealthy whites. So they aren’t targeted (unless they belong to a leftist organization).

Their solution obviously does nothing to correct inequality. That’s a major difference between liberals and leftists. The left actually cares about liberation and egalite. Liberals’ concern only extends to the protection of private and corporate property.


Well, it's not like I am unaware of the fact that cops shoot black people, I get pretty worked up over it. I simply view it as the lesser of two evils that blacks are openly armed and sometimes shot, than disarmed and sometimes shot.
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Jul 29 2019 02:33pm
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Well, it's not like I am unaware of the fact that cops shoot black people, I get pretty worked up over it. I simply view it as the lesser of two evils that blacks are openly armed and sometimes shot, than disarmed and sometimes shot.


Viewing things a certain way does nothing at all.

Next time you hear about a black man open carrying, you'd be best served to join him on his walk.
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Jul 29 2019 02:39pm
you guys know the most dangerous person in this site is card sultan...

I'm worried one day he's gonna get revenge on all of us, and become a martyr for flatearth society, the flatearthers are probably planning it already
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Jul 29 2019 02:43pm
what are we gonna do when the flatearthers rise up against us?

where are we gonna run to? Mars? glhf with that...

this entire thing is because it was a garlic festival...

if it were a potato farming festival none of this would have happened...


let's reach enlightenment by farming potatoes bitches!
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Jul 29 2019 02:48pm
Quote (ChrisKz @ Jul 29 2019 03:03pm)
Are you serious?

Just making sure that you know, but almost 90 percent of gun crime is gang correlated. You know this, right?


Where is this fact from?


Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 29 2019 02:27pm)
I remember the left calling for 'gun control' (they know wont pass), while taking NRA money hand over fist, for sure.


I think every body should be armed and have access to health care. That makes me an enemy to right and left.

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Where is this fact from?


http://jpfo.org/articles-assd03/gun-stats-perspective.htm

My bad, it was actually 80 percent

ignore the source, i just googled and found first that wasn't fishy. lol.

https://www.quora.com/If-you-take-gang-violence-out-of-gun-statistics-does-the-USA-gun-homicide-rate-look-similar-to-other-G20-countries

Perspective is a bit diff. When talking about non-self inflicted gun violence (cuz suicide is at the top), gang violence accounts fo 80 percent of gun violence outside of law enforcement (17 percent overall)

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I have a hard time believing that all non gang related crime including domestic violence, suicides, crimes of passion, etc, make up less than 20% of gun crime.

Also considering the vast majority of people in jail are not convicted of any crime I'm not sure how serious I would take the American criminal Justice system. Lol. They don't know what the f**** they're doing.

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Will not load.

I have a hard time believing that all non gang related crime including domestic violence, suicides, crimes of passion, etc, make up less than 20% of gun crime.

Also considering the vast majority of people in jail are not convicted of any crime I'm not sure how serious I would take the American criminal Justice system.


You are right about suicide. I was counting gun violence, suicide didn't account for that factor.
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Quote (Skinned @ Jul 29 2019 03:54pm)
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I have a hard time believing that all non gang related crime including domestic violence, suicides, crimes of passion, etc, make up less than 20% of gun crime.

Also considering the vast majority of people in jail are not convicted of any crime I'm not sure how serious I would take the American criminal Justice system.


You do know jail and prison are different right? They hold you in jail until you get convicted - then you go to prison.
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Jul 29 2019 02:57pm
Quote (krackprophet @ Jul 29 2019 04:55pm)
You do know jail and prison are different right? They hold you in jail until you get convicted - then you go to prison.


Yep. Instead of jail i meant incarcerated. Kidnapped and locked in a steel cage to get specific. Lol.

It turns out the vast majority of people going back to incarceration off a parole or probation are not committing new crimes either.

It's too bad they don't actually address recidividism. The price of choosing punishment over rehabilitation.

Cook County jail is the largest provider of mental health services in the State of Illinois. Now that mental illness and homelessness are criminal our jails will always be full.

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