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Jun 13 2019 10:24am
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the republicans did 100% "bring them here", via produce picking jobs that paid 4$/hr cash and a demand for cash maids and cleaners. that's the economic side of immigration. But that's also not nearly as pertinent in 2019 as it was in 1999. In 2019 the immigration debate has a humanitarian facet with refugee migrants fleeing oppressive regimes and abject poverty. and we can all agree the right isn't drawing people up in 2019 for charity. plus there are plenty here already to do field work and low price service work such as cleaning and landscaping. so the right doesn't want more, even if they do turn out to be conservative republican voters.


Harder to turn the faucet off then they thought lol.
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Harder to turn the faucet off then they thought lol.


for about 40 years there was no faucet. we were employing day labor that would cross the border in buses that headed straight to the field. same went with hospitality work in many areas. then the combination of tightened border security clearance post 9-11 and the migrant country of origin shifting from Mexico to much further south ended that. and now if they want to work here they have to live here too. true for both situations, they can neither get back over nor is mexico their home.
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LMAO.... TIL the Republicans are FOR illegal immigration. :/
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LMAO.... TIL the Republicans are FOR illegal immigration. :/


They use it to fire up the base. People like you

Republicans- a range of we have to do something to they are dealers and rapist and will steal your land

Democrats. status quo- Republicans are monsters

Neither have done shit or are going to do shit but both use it politically and insincerely
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Jun 13 2019 10:46am
Quote (Skinned @ Jun 13 2019 04:17pm)
A lot of Hispanics vote Republican as evidenced by Bush and Romney. The Republicans brought them here lol. They just seem to be done using them and wish to discard them now?


You're confusing legal Hispanic citizens with illegals. Not every Hispanic in this country is some fresh-off-the-border tomato picker. Some of the most staunchly opposed people to illegal immigration are legal Hispanic citizens who either went through the legal process themselves or their predecessors did. A huge chunk of the Border Patrol consists of these people; in fact, I think the BP might be majority Hispanic along the southern border (but don't let that get in the way of those who repeatedly say only racist whites care about immigration control). It's a constant slap in their face when foreign nationals are allowed to sneak into this country while our politicians, know-it-all celebrities, and MSM pander to them.

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You're confusing legal Hispanic citizens with illegals. Not every Hispanic in this country is some fresh-off-the-border tomato picker. Some of the most staunchly opposed people to illegal immigration are legal Hispanic citizens who either went through the legal process themselves or their predecessors did. A huge chunk of the Border Patrol consists of these people; in fact, I think the BP might be majority Hispanic along the southern border (but don't let that get in the way of those who repeatedly say only racist whites care about immigration control). It's a constant slap in their face when foreign nationals are allowed to sneak into this country while our politicians, know-it-all celebrities, and MSM pander to them.


decent paying jobs in the areas they live

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decent paying jobs in the areas they live

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And? Your point?
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And? Your point?


it's a job a decent paying job that isn't that hard to get

you messed up with this part "(but don't let that get in the way of those who repeatedly say only racist whites care about immigration control)"

implying these are a bunch of patriots with your political opinions

some sure but mostly they are in the area and have a job that pays, mostly that

same goes with your claim of them saying walls work, it's the money lebowski
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it's a job a decent paying job that isn't that hard to get

you messed up with this part "(but don't let that get in the way of those who repeatedly say only racist whites care about immigration control)"

implying these are a bunch of patriots with your political opinions

some sure but mostly they are in the area and have a job that pays, mostly that

same goes with your claim of them saying walls work, it's the money lebowski


Yes! Something told me you were going to say that.

Actually, it's not that easy to become a BP agent, it's federal law enforcement. Only a small portion of applicants are qualified and approved after screening. They don't just accept any riffraff into the agency. The primary reasons why most are Hispanic, and it may or might not be majority, don't quote me on that, are the language and geographic barriers.

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implying these are a bunch of patriots with your political opinions


Most of the BP believe in what they're doing, for various reasons, but the common denominators are to help protect the border, uphold the laws, and help people in need. Under previous administrations, particularly Obama, they were sometimes held back with one arm behind their back. They did not like it and moral was low.

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Yes! Something told me you were going to say that.

Actually, it's not that easy to become a BP agent. Only a small portion of applicants are qualified and approved after screening. They don't just accept any riffraff into the agency. The primary reason why most are Hispanic, and it may or might not be majority, don't quote me on that, is because of the language and geographic barrier.


being bilingual it doesn't require a lot of education it's really not that hard to get in if you're clean and have a good work ethic and some dedication

not very different than working down at the jail or prison it's just a local job that pays well and of course they will support things in their line of work because they have financial interest not necessarily political

they may have tightened it up the last few years because of years and years of hiring incompetence in the past tho, get a lot of corruption down there
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