ptsd marine as well. the kind of guy that would get spit on in Seattle if he was in uniform no doubt.

Is it though? Looking back at mass shootings over the last 20 years, it's been getting increasingly diverse, just like the country in general. Remember, before that asshole in Las Vegas, the shooter with the highest score *cough* I mean kill count, was an Asian man at Virginia Tech. The DC Snipers, the black guy who brought a shotgun to the DC armory. The Middle Eastern man who gunned up a gay night club. Just to name a few.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

Seems logical when demographics are taken into account. I think the reason it seems like so many mass shooters are honkeys is because, well, the largest demographic in the country. It's like saying China has a yellow man problem when it comes to serial killers. Well, yeah, duh lol.

Bottom line, though, I don't feel all the mass shootings are so much a gun problem, but rather a symptom of sickness in our society. We've become increasingly violent, hateful, and divided over the decades. Add to that mix an almost romanticized or obsession with violence and mass shootings and there's going to be a problem. Reminds me of that movie Natural Born Killers. Whenever some jerkwad shoots up a school or casino, its headline news and they get the attention they seek. Somewhere, some other lonely, fucked up asshole sees all this attention in the news and thinks "Hey, I can do that, too!" or "God I wonder what a rush that must be like!".

It sucks because we can't just ignore it and pretend it didn't happen. But, at the same time, it's become an insatiable beast.

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How much money has the NRA spent on politicians? How does it compare to other large lobbying organizations? Good job.

i agree with every point you made. i generally, as a white male, try to be accountable for what my group does. and while we're not the problem when demographics are taken into account we still have the largest pile of bodies if you eliminate 9-11 when it comes to domestic terror. my hope is that this creates bridges that we can exchange ideas across with leftists, rather than outright denials and whataboutism that this conversation generally devolves into. but i agree that mental health should be the focus, as well as post war handling of veterans.



enough money each year to feed and house the homeless, or there abouts. lobbyists are an enemy of the people, even to pro-gun people they're a hindrance to our freedom as much as they protect it.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 8 2018 12:12pm

A gang shootout in south Detroit isn't really a "mass shooting" the way you are trying to sell it

Nice donkey show, but im not believing the essence of it.

It's certainly pretty much comfortable to claim you are for "more control" or "permits"
Till it's not hitting your business.

Its a lack of education imo.

Todays schools are so outdated.

We need to focus on a new education system.

Spend what ever we need . But in the end there are ways to ease the tax burden.

This is an asinine comparison. No one in this country starves

The NRA and its monetary activity are an embodiment of the first amendment politically just as much as it is the second

Yeahhhh.... no.

see this is your issue, you disbelieve everyone when its convenient for you to so that you can confirm your biases about people.

i get it, you've been a running croissant joke in this sub for years, so you're a bit of a whipped dog.

my business sells shotguns to farmers, along with ammo, to use at our skeet and trap range. we sell next to zero handguns. we do sell quite a few "high powered rifles" but our customers wouldn't at all be upset or deterred by having to get a permit. On the contrary, when concealed carry was passed in our state and we had high requirements for the licences, including qualified instruction courses, we had customers coming in to proudly display their cards. The talked to us about how rewarding the classes were, that even after decades of shooting they learned things, and that at 100$ for the full day course it was well worth it.

people like you eat up the bullshit democrats drop. you're all convinced that the right is the only problem, and that all right winged people dont want a single thing changed and hate training permits and education. you're a sheep, although at least you're a foreign sheep so you can blame it on a combination of language barrier and media barrier.

you dont know anything about me or my business, and when i tell you you just assume im lying. this is because you're mentally not able to come at me, you're a .22 in a world of 300 win mags. pew pew, keep it up skippy.



1, i said and house. i guess i just wish homeless people didn't have to dig through the garbage for food (and i detest food waste practices generally that allow for this) and don't like people sleeping on park benches. but it was tongue and cheek anyways so don't get too literal.

2, a massive collective of corporations influencing politicians with campaign money is the first amendment personified?

i've been a card carrying NRA member for a decade kid. and i've been to dozens of meetings. Know what the citizen involvement is? planning hunter's safety courses, planning benefits, and organizing the calendar raffle sale. then coffee, donuts, and gun talk. no national agenda voting, and no mention of lobbying topics. the NRA is a fractured body, half of it is local action, the other half is washington swamp madness.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 8 2018 12:26pm