why would you have lots of aliens races in the virtual world, they don't give any energy but still take up lots of data, also programming a whole universe instead of just one planet
and all the fighting/violence etc the star trek universe feels a lot more like this one rather than a machines version of a humans perfect world
why am i taking this seriously lol

Hm you mean/heard the one where it's a simulation from some advanced race existing in some computer, where does that computer sit? i guess just in another universe and it goes round in a big circle
the chance of an intelligence species growing to the point it can do this somewhere in the universe is great. You'd except more than one simulation so the chances of us being in the original universe (if there ever was one) are very low

I sort of incorporated that into this if there's an AI supercomputer than can produce this code. *ah fuck i was using this as a loop which explains everything. but for the computer to do the code within the universe it has to use some sort of compression etc but that would limit the amount of copies inside each other and couldn't form a loop. Maybe it's just black holes that create universes, wouldn't it also have the same problem of reduction though, but who knows what happens at infinity temperature/density in no space. Or the big crunch would be nice but it looks like that isn't going to happen. The universe just doesn't make sense to me anymore unless it's some kind of zero sum self contained loop,

Did you know gravity has a negative energy or something and basically the net energy of the universe is 0, I like to think of it as a big weird representation of nothing, like virtual participial it's nothing coming apart briefly as two opposites briefly before disheartening back together to nothing

Ah i had panpsychism down wrong btw sorry, it's like the idea that everything is conscious to some extent, i don't really see how that works unless all the simple stuff comes together into a bigger consciousness basically just saying that the universe is god. Would it be beneficial to massage an inanimate object? (not a piss take question)
Still i'm going with objects being part of consciousness rather than separate or also


Sorry i know this has been pretty deep it's been really helpful for me to get a lot of these ideas down together. I'm still trying to incorporate it all, i'm sure a lot of ideas are right in some way or another, a lot of this stuff isn't mutually exclusive and will fit together. It's like every religion has very similar principles at the end of the day, they could all be right to some extent

This post was edited by dakariii on Aug 27 2016 01:14pm

The best solution to this conundrum is of course that consciousness is a fundamental thing in the universe (perhaps the only thing). So nothing can exist without consciousness, and possibly nothing can exist except consciousness.

This importantly allows reconciliation with physicalism, and doesn't require woo-woo quantum physics interpretations that involve wave function collapse.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Aug 27 2016 01:42pm

The rabbit hole is deep
and you have miles and miles to go before you sleep.

I love this video because Neil Degrasse Tyson totally freaks out that his reality might not be real

Binary code has meaning in IT because it is being interpreted by processors.

Your concept is interesting but it skips one step of logic: if the world is encoded, then who/what is the machine that decodes it and transforms it into the world that we see?

The interpreter defines the language, not the other way around. For a binary encoding to be meaningful, you first have to come up with a system in which it is meaningful.

The "fire in the equations" as Hawking says.

I say it's consciousness.

You'll have to elaborate on this-- I didn't hear that quote before.

I think your seeing the binary code as a defined set of instruction, like in today's programing, x + y = z
Instead think of it as in Quantum code and the future of AI, where infinite choice is programmed as well.
I think many people confuse what they experience, and falsely believe therefore everyone must have the same experience and draw the same conclusions
Neither the programmer nor the interpreter need define the instructions, people are free to see what they want to see and understand what they wish.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Aug 27 2016 02:19pm

everything is ones and zeros

Nothing you just said changes anything I just said.

Did you even understand what I said?