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Mar 23 2016 07:53pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 23 2016 06:48pm)
...you are repeating well known historical events and trying to make them sound like a conspiracy .


One minute you're calling it a conspiracy theory, the next you are stating that it is well known historical events

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08/the-taliban-indoctrinates-kids-with-jihadist-textbooks-paid-for-by-the-u-s/


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Quote (TCassa89 @ 24 Mar 2016 01:43)
Actually it's pretty much the general consensus of the Pentagon's intel. Futhermore, even the most passionate supporters of the war in Iraq admit today that it was a mistake that created the mess that exists today


took the pentagon plenty time to come to a trivial conclusion
but whom are you referring to when you say 'most passionate supporters'?
must be pentagon insiders because plenty of the conservatives in the usa will never be able to acknowledge that
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Mar 23 2016 07:55pm
The most important thing as an American to worry about is ourselves. We're entitled brats.
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Mar 23 2016 07:56pm
Quote (TCassa89 @ Mar 23 2016 08:36pm)
actually, if we didn't get involved in Iraq to begin with, there would be no caliphate threat there or is Syria.. same is true for Libya


Short term Power vacuum's for sure, but I dont believe your premise and history doesnt stand on your side, your view is far to short both in terms of the past and in the whats basically the very near future. The Islamic totalitarianism has existed for 1500 years, since it's exception. In it's heyday it had an empire larger then British imperialism and was slaving up until about 1967.

working as intended, and made easier by the welfare state and white guilt. Not coming here to adopt western culture as shown by goals of implementing sharia courts whenever they have any significant numbers in a region and changing speech rights enshrined in our culture.


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Yasser Arafat said that the most important weapon of the Arabs is the “Arab womb,” the motto being: “If we can’t defeat them in war, let’s outbreed them.”

Houari Boumédienne, Algeria’s ruler until his death in 1978, said in 1974 “One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory .


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"Just look at the development within Europe," said a triumphant Norwegian imam a few months ago, "where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children. Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours."



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Libya's Colonel Gaddafi once exemplified this policy. He said: "There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe - without swords, without guns, without conquests. The 50 million Muslims of Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."



Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated, not the other way around. The Future Belongs to Islam, you better get used to submission and be sure to virtue signal how compassionate and understanding you along the way facilitating it , and by denigrating anyone who can read the writing on the wall and thinks western freedoms and ideas are worthwhile. (not directed at you per say)



I felt like putting a bullet between the eyes of every panda that wouldn’t screw to save its species – “Narrator”, Fight Club

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Mar 23 2016 07:56pm
Quote (TCassa89 @ Mar 23 2016 09:53pm)
One minute you're calling it a conspiracy theory, the next you are stating that it is well known historical events

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08/the-taliban-indoctrinates-kids-with-jihadist-textbooks-paid-for-by-the-u-s/


..you are making it into a conspiracy . We had an end goal for the Cold War and that was the destruction of the Soviet Union through economic calamity but you want to use it as the cause for something that has existed for 1,300 years .
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Quote (brmv @ Mar 23 2016 06:53pm)
took the pentagon plenty time to come to a trivial conclusion
but whom are you referring to when you say 'most passionate supporters'?
must be pentagon insiders because plenty of the conservatives in the usa will never be able to acknowledge that


Well, even the brother of the man who started the Iraq war admits that the Iraq war was a mistake that created the current mess that exists in the region.
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Mar 23 2016 08:00pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 23 2016 06:56pm)
..you are making it into a conspiracy . We had an end goal for the Cold War and that was the destruction of the Soviet Union through economic calamity but you want to use it as the cause for something that has existed for 1,300 years .


It's not a conspiracy, we aided the group that later broke off into the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in their fight against the Russians, and now those same people are looking to use the same tactics used against the Soviet Union on us...
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Mar 23 2016 08:04pm
Quote (TCassa89 @ Mar 23 2016 09:57pm)
Well, even the brother of the man who started the Iraq war admits that the Iraq war was a mistake that created the current mess that exists in the region.


...the man who started the Iraq war was Saddam Hussein when he previously invaded Kuwait . The die was cast for the creation of Al-Queda and sectarian slaughter when the Kuwaiti's refused Bin Laden's offer to repel the Iraqi invaders and allowed the United States to fulfill their treaty obligation.

Everything that is happening today is a direct result of Iraq trying to annex Kuwait .
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Mar 23 2016 08:05pm
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It's not a conspiracy, we aided the group that later broke off into the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in their fight against the Russians, and now those same people are looking to use the same tactics used against the Soviet Union on us...


...you on operating on a sliver , just a sliver , of the historical reality .
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Quote (TCassa89 @ 24 Mar 2016 01:57)
Well, even the brother of the man who started the Iraq war admits that the Iraq war was a mistake that created the current mess that exists in the region.


took him also a long time (and somehow he comes across as slightly more intelligent than most republicans)

and as to the "Libya's Colonel Gaddafi once exemplified this policy."
was that before or after his endorsement by condoleezza rice?
for those who cannot remember, let me quote from conservapedia:
"U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice praised Libya for its "excellent co-operation" in the US-led war on terror. Full diplomatic relations with the United States were restored in 2006, and the Gaddafi regime's turnaround has been heralded by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as a model for others to follow. "
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