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Sep 28 2015 01:53pm
Quote (pakko @ Sep 28 2015 01:43pm)




thx for your input ahmed, go and teach isis fighters that they shouldnt kill christians, u wont stand a fucking minute idiot


The adults are too far gone to he taught anything. There comes a point where an individual is stubborn to their views despite how absurd they might be. I'm sure there are some that can be logic' out of their primitive ways, but I can't imagine it being an easy task. Being religiously associated only increases an individual's stubbornness to adhere to that system, on either side of the spectrum. If you asked me to teach children why one view is not logical, that would be entirely possible.

It's besides the fact that I would never take on this responsibility, perhaps I'm too selfish. I was born and raised in Iowa, and would rather contribute as much as I can to my own society and people. I don't associate myself with any spiritual or religious organization, however don't really care to fix the political blunders of elected representatives.
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Sep 28 2015 02:19pm
how much illegals come in poland with eu decisions?
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Sep 28 2015 03:42pm
Quote (attila @ Sep 28 2015 10:19pm)
how much illegals come in poland with eu decisions?


Apart from 95% society which is against to take even one immigrant, our pm (on a Merkel's service) agreed on 7000 in two years.
Our liberal media tells people that EU will pay 6000 eur/per one invader and actually it's true if we hold that people for over two years (this part is not mentioned of course).
So to answer your question 7000, but according to eu policy which allows them to bring their families here, these numbers can be multipled by 5,6, maby seven.
50000 muslims is a threat (not just terrorist threat), they starting to riot, demanding laws (like sharia courts in shitbongistan) getting permisions to build mosques (sponsored by saudis) and this ride never ends..

So learning on a westerners mistakes we said ZERO and it going to happen in one month, after elections.
Beside that, a funny anecdote.
We have a foundation here run by half syrian/half polish girl. She brought somewhat 150 syrian christians directly from damascus.
They were given a place to sleep, in local churches which has nice standards, provided with food and jobs.
Half of them already fled to german caliphate...
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Sep 28 2015 03:45pm
Quote (Bazi @ Sep 28 2015 02:34pm)
Treatment for radical Islam is education

Ironically that is also the treatment for islamaphobia


yep

Proper education on the true teachings of the Quran would prevent radical Islam.

Education, or not being a brainwashed puppet, would prevent islamaphobia.

OP as a result is obviously not educated. He's brainwashed by those around him enforcing such radical hate ideals.

What differentiates the severity of his radical beliefs from the beliefs of radical muslims?

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The adults are too far gone to he taught anything. There comes a point where an individual is stubborn to their views despite how absurd they might be. I'm sure there are some that can be logic' out of their primitive ways, but I can't imagine it being an easy task. Being religiously associated only increases an individual's stubbornness to adhere to that system, on either side of the spectrum. If you asked me to teach children why one view is not logical, that would be entirely possible.

It's besides the fact that I would never take on this responsibility, perhaps I'm too selfish. I was born and raised in Iowa, and would rather contribute as much as I can to my own society and people. I don't associate myself with any spiritual or religious organization, however don't really care to fix the political blunders of elected representatives.


My answer to those who desperately want to take illegal immigrants is:
Take em to your own homes where live your teenage daughters and sons, feed them, dress them and take responsibility for all the crimes they commit.
And here's what happen, noone literally take a single muslim under his roof.
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Sep 28 2015 03:51pm
Quote (GraySmoke @ Sep 28 2015 11:45pm)
yep

Proper education on the true teachings of the Quran would prevent radical Islam.

Education, or not being a brainwashed puppet, would prevent islamaphobia.

OP as a result is obviously not educated. He's brainwashed by those around him enforcing such radical hate ideals.

What differentiates the severity of his radical beliefs from the beliefs of radical muslims?


Got examples of such people?
They are automatically excluded from their muslim communities and instantly sentenced to death
Are u fucking dumb or what?
Read quaran and then start to talk..

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Sep 28 2015 04:02pm
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My answer to those who desperately want to take illegal immigrants is:
Take em to your own homes where live your teenage daughters and sons, feed them, dress them and take responsibility for all the crimes they commit.
And here's what happen, noone literally take a single muslim under his roof.


It's interesting how that works, isn't it? You see this phenomenon in the US, too. In Europe, countries such as Austria, Hungary, Poland, Serbia, etc., are not thrilled about what's happening, all the while people who don't live near these most affected hot-zones, such as the UK, Sweden, Netherlands, are shaking their fingers in disgust and lecturing them on being xenophobes, racists, or whatever other easy method of squelching opposition they can think up. In America, US citizens along the border states are not happy about illegal immigration, but you'll have people living in Seattle, Berkley, Massachusetts, New York, etc., people who aren't affected day-to-day, lecturing and determining how things should be for everyone else.

Make people like Scaly and Valhalls_Sun suddenly responsible for providing welfare for some refugees and I guarantee their attitude would change. It's all about them being able to stand up, thump their chests, and look like the they're the ones with the bigger hearts than everyone else... just as long as they have nothing at stake and it's someone else bearing the burden.
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Sep 28 2015 04:04pm
Quote (pakko @ 28 Sep 2015 19:20)
Nobody believes that people might be such ignorant as yourself. Your point of view is typical for people who are a minority and being harassed.
Muslims are minority too (yet) but u're making a huge mistake identifying yaself with such minority as these animals..


Identifying? I think their religion is as ridiculous and dangerous as any other relifion. More so in some cases. But you speak about ignorance and yet you can't even be bothered to learn the difference between a sufi and a sunni. Wahabiism is the real danger and tarring all Muslims with the wahabi brush is ignorant as fuck and does little except promote ignorance, fear, divisiveness and hatred.

As far as I've seen the Polish are a far greater issue in terms of animalistic behaviour here in the UK than Muslims are. A tiny minority of Muslims may wish violence on the public and an even smaller minority might act on those wishes but it's the slavs who roam the streets p[issed out of their heads starting fights with people.
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Sep 28 2015 04:08pm
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Got examples of such people?


Many muslims are guided by tradition and culture, which are derived from the the Quran but don't 100% reflect it (which is almost impossible anyway because it's a 2000 year book and all).

Some locations in the world have more radical traditions and cultural activities which are not derived from the Quran.
They might have come from the Prophet, his companians, or other cultural leaders throughout history. People who make mistakes and are sometimes misguided by human nature.

Anyway, the point is Radical islamists are not followers of the Quran. They may say they are, but they are not. They actually are.. just twist it some

Quote (pakko @ Sep 28 2015 05:51pm)
They are automatically excluded from their muslim communities and instantly sentenced to death


What m8?
This might be true in radically controlled lands such as.. Syria where millions of refugees are escaping such radical communities such as ISIS which by no means reflect Islam or the Quran.

Quote (pakko @ Sep 28 2015 05:51pm)
Are u fucking dumb or what?


yes

Quote (pakko @ Sep 28 2015 05:51pm)
Read quaran and then start to talk..


Let's do it together

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Sep 28 2015 04:12pm
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Many muslims are guided by tradition and culture, which are derived from the the Quran but don't 100% reflect it (which is almost impossible anyway because it's a 2000 year book and all).

Some locations in the world have more radical traditions and cultural activities which are not derived from the Quran.
They might have come from the Prophet, his companians, or other cultural leaders throughout history. People who make mistakes and are sometimes misguided by human nature.

Anyway, the point is Radical islamists are not followers of the Quran. They may say they are, but they are not.



What m8?
This might be true in radically controlled lands such as.. Syria where millions of refugees are escaping such radical communities such as ISIS which by no means reflect Islam or the Quran.



yes



Let's do it together


They follow the Quran's teachings in a twisted and selective way. All religious people cherrypick the parts that suit their agenda. It just so happens that their agenda is to kill lots of people. But don't try and insinuate that they don't follow the Quran, it's mixing fact with opinion but without the honesty of making a distinction.
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