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#41
Oct 7 2014 08:08pm
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Oct 7 2014 02:09pm)
The free market is no place to find morality or values concerning expression. It is economic, and ought to be left separate from other elements of society. Outside of the production of goods, those free market principles are some of the most damaging notions you can unleash upon society. Those who still find Capitalism and a Free Market correctly realize that those institutions are still helpful for creating the on-the-surface triumphant man. However, he is empty, he has no values. He lacks all meaning and his life is without understanding.

The age becomes meaningless, the barriers between all melt away and individuality disappears. You're only left with the masses, every niche market is made mainstream, every consumer is melted down into one. This is not the dangers of Marxism, but of Capitalism and the free market too. Materialism and mob authority, steered and directed appropriately, accomplishes the goal all the same. A world free from race, gender, nations, values. A world without identity.


I read Ortega's influence at work here.
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Oct 7 2014 09:30pm
Ben afleck was just kind of annoying here
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Oct 7 2014 09:36pm
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Ben afleck was just kind of annoying here


Only here?
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Oct 7 2014 09:44pm
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Only here?



waht?

This post was edited by Historic on Oct 7 2014 09:49pm
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#45
Oct 7 2014 11:29pm
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I read Ortega's influence at work here.


Give me a full name to read up on. I'm not sure where I'm heading politically, but I know I'm leaving libertarianism behind.

I'm mostly going off Evola. But, most of the media I've been consuming and thinking about help reinforce and expand on the thinking. The thoughts on money and materialism have been strengthened by the movie Network. But I'm still not very well read. Just bits from books, movies, economics, marketing strategies applied to larger society and games.

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Oct 7 2014 11:33pm
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I can't see an alternative to democracy in an educated society.


Walmartians are allowed just as much say as you and I?
Terrible, terrible notion.


People should have to pass a test in order to vote.
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Oct 7 2014 11:43pm
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Walmartians are allowed just as much say as you and I?
Terrible, terrible notion.


People should have to pass a test in order to vote.


There has to be a way to keep the people in charge accountable though. We're not doing a very good job about that at the moment. I would like to see us strive towards a meritocracy though.
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#48
Oct 8 2014 02:19am
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The left "having" Viv is like the right "having" HST.


Unfair and insulting.

I'm far more intelligent and far less leftist.

Quote (ChronFather420 @ 8 Oct 2014 05:33)
Walmartians are allowed just as much say as you and I?
Terrible, terrible notion.


People should have to pass a test in order to vote.


Truth. Stupid people and religious people shouldn't have a say. First generation immigrants shouldn't either.

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Oct 8 2014 02:22am
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There has to be a way to keep the people in charge accountable though. We're not doing a very good job about that at the moment. I would like to see us strive towards a meritocracy though.


Get me on board for a meritocracy / technocracy any day.
Any time a politician says something about "experts in the field" for the committee they are chairing, it rankles my bones

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Oct 8 2014 05:15am
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Oct 8 2014 08:29am)
Give me a full name to read up on. I'm not sure where I'm heading politically, but I know I'm leaving libertarianism behind.

I'm mostly going off Evola. But, most of the media I've been consuming and thinking about help reinforce and expand on the thinking. The thoughts on money and materialism have been strengthened by the movie Network. But I'm still not very well read. Just bits from books, movies, economics, marketing strategies applied to larger society and games.

José Ortega y Gasset
you might want to check out later Martin Heidegger as well, his essays on technology are particularly good. generally his works range from "kind of hard to get into and to hard to follow" to stuff that makes one want to just destroy everything that he's ever written. Dreyfus' reading of him in "Heidegger on the Connection between Nihilism, Art, Technology and Politics" is quite the nice and clear reading of Heidegger with parallels and examples to Heidegger's existentialist influences for an easier time jumping in to the whole thing.

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