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Sep 29 2014 10:19pm
Quote (Skinned @ Sep 29 2014 10:32pm)
Most families who get on welfare are on for an average of two years, and the maximum time somebody can get cash assistance is five years with states being able to decrease that amount of time.  For example in Ohio the maximum time somebody can get Temporary Aid to Needy Families (TANF) aka welfare check is three years total.  Time limits were imposed during the Reagan administration, and it was called welfare reform, despite not actually decreasing the amount of time a family is on welfare (on average).

Kind of a chicken little thread.


Right, and do your stats include SSI, medicaid,food stamps, emergency food assistance, section 8, HUD, Low income home energy assistance program, and god knows how many other programs?

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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Sep 29 2014 05:28pm)
...so like I said , you would let the children starve without any medical care or even a roof over their head before you would use tax dollars to help them .


This. The children shouldn't be punished because of their parents mistakes. I get what you're saying, but it would not work in practice since it would just hurt the innocent children who can't help the fact they were born. Welfare is a necessity in any society since there will always be those who are in need of assistance.
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Sep 29 2014 10:33pm
Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 29 2014 11:30pm)
This. The children shouldn't be punished because of their parents mistakes. I get what you're saying, but it would not work in practice since it would just hurt the innocent children who can't help the fact they were born. Welfare is a necessity in any society since there will always be those who are in need of assistance.


Take the kids way from the parents then. Do anything but give the parent money or resources when they can't go out and contribute to society for what they need. Open up soup kitchens. Feed the kids but don't give the parents anything. Let private charities feed the kids. There has to be a million options I can't think of other than use my tax money to support a woman who deliberately has babies to get my money.
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Sep 29 2014 10:40pm
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Take the kids way from the parents then.  Do anything but give the parent money or resources when they can't go out and contribute to society for what they need.  Open up soup kitchens.  Feed the kids but don't give the parents anything.  Let private charities feed the kids.  There has to be a million options I can't think of other than use my tax money to support a woman who deliberately has babies to get my money.


So you'd take the kids away from the parents and put them in foster homes or other facilities where they will be separated from their siblings and placed with strangers. You realize the cost of doing that alone would make your tax dollars most likely increase? There are already so many kids in foster care without your "solution" to welfare. It also sounds like a worse situation for the kids to be in than the original situation.
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Sep 29 2014 10:42pm
Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 29 2014 11:40pm)
So you'd take the kids away from the parents and put them in foster homes or other facilities where they will be separated from their siblings and placed with strangers. You realize the cost of doing that alone would make your tax dollars most likely increase? There are already so many kids in foster care without your "solution" to welfare. It also sounds like a worse situation for the kids to be in than the original situation.


Yea those 12 kids in the motel room were in a great situation. Those kids were DOOMED.
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Sep 29 2014 10:51pm
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Yea those 12 kids in the motel room were in a great situation.  Those kids were DOOMED.


If a situation gets bad then obviously cps would step in, however, the vast majority of cases on welfare are not similar to what you're referring to. Your fix would most likely do more harm than good. The only real long-term solution I see is proper education. And the problem with that is education in inner cities schools is not good.

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Sep 30 2014 02:58am
Her children will go up to be just like her. She should have had abortions.

/edit 90% of the people in the housing application mob is black. Fml.


Welfare dependency is new world slavery.

If we ever ran out of money, these fools would starve.



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Quote (Skinned @ Sep 29 2014 09:32pm)
Most families who get on welfare are on for an average of two years, and the maximum time somebody can get cash assistance is five years with states being able to decrease that amount of time.  For example in Ohio the maximum time somebody can get Temporary Aid to Needy Families (TANF) aka welfare check is three years total.  Time limits were imposed during the Reagan administration, and it was called welfare reform, despite not actually decreasing the amount of time a family is on welfare (on average).

Kind of a chicken little thread.


Social Security will pay a woman for her children until they are full grown.
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Sep 30 2014 04:06am
Quote (nineinchnailz @ 29 Sep 2014 23:33)
Take the kids way from the parents then.  Do anything but give the parent money or resources when they can't go out and contribute to society for what they need.  Open up soup kitchens.  Feed the kids but don't give the parents anything.  Let private charities feed the kids.  There has to be a million options I can't think of other than use my tax money to support a woman who deliberately has babies to get my money.



[take the kids away from the parent(s) let private charities feed them] how very G. Bush. 1,000 points of lightsish.



Quote (PixileDust @ 30 Sep 2014 03:58)
Her children will go up to be just like her. She should have had abortions.

/edit 90% of the people in the housing application mob is black. Fml.


Welfare dependency is new world slavery.

If we ever ran out of money, these fools would starve.


housing application mob is black? What difference does their skin color make? does a darker skin make them less worthy to you? more mob like? I don't understand the implication here.
new world slavery? a crap-pie for an economy that has little or no entry level inner city jobs that require no higher education. a welfare system that actually penalizes a parent for finding work
even though that work is part time and barely pays the rent leaving nothing for food or utilities.


fools? What a separation of class and realities this sense of entitlement of somehow being better just because of station and the luck of a education sickens me.

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Sep 30 2014 05:06am
If you make a thread and Skinned, Widow and Caedus disagree with you.... then you know you dun goofed.
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