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Jul 29 2014 12:11pm
Please tell me this is satirical.

Way too euphoric for me.
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Jul 29 2014 01:01pm

Quote (BardOfXiix @ Jul 29 2014 10:02am)
http://dailyhomerenotips.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/old-front-door-from-inside.jpg


Only good picture in this entire thread.

Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 29 2014 10:11am)
Please tell me this is satirical.

Way too euphoric for me.


Probably not. More like another thread that confirms I make the correct decision to not tell people I'm an atheist any time it would come up. They would immediately wonder on a scale of 1 to 10 how euphoric I feel.
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Jul 29 2014 01:33pm
Quote (TURBO_DODGE @ Jul 29 2014 05:14am)
you like it?  :angel:



http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc404/turbo_dodge/Andromeda-Galaxy.jpg


that's an interesting way of saying "i believe there are no gods"

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Probably not. More like another thread that confirms I make the correct decision to not tell people I'm an atheist any time it would come up. They would immediately wonder on a scale of 1 to 10 how euphoric I feel.


have people told you "you think you're smart when you say you're an atheist?" or something like that? :lol:

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Jul 29 2014 07:36pm
Quote (Villainn @ Jul 29 2014 10:45am)
Obviously seeing something isn't the only way of proving something exists. That is the exact reason I used air as an example.... After seeing your guild name, maybe if you experienced a deployment in a combat role you might have different beliefs.


It doesn't occur to you that someone in combat who sees miracles where someone who clearly should have died lives may become more inclined to believe in the hand of God acting on his behalf? This cuts both ways. Someone who sees the horror of combat may decide that God is absent based on what he sees, and someone who sees miracles can come to a completely different conclusion.

Quote (gary22 @ Jul 29 2014 11:52am)
The cause of many wars.


Or conversely, the cause of the end of many wars. It doesn't occur to you that men are the cause of wars, instead of God(s)?
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Jul 29 2014 07:39pm
Quote (TURBO_DODGE @ Jul 28 2014 10:14pm)
you like it?  :angel:



http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc404/turbo_dodge/Andromeda-Galaxy.jpg


Logic is a construct created by humans. It has no intrinsic worth in and of itself.
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Jul 29 2014 10:16pm
btw you spelled "truly" wrong
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Jul 30 2014 12:04am
you can actually prove evolution is real (we can see it in viruses and bacteria during the last 30 years)

Almost everything in the bible and Told to us by the Church that was presented as factual - has turned out to be false.

So that either means God is a big fat Liar or because errors are a trait of man , God and Religion were just another failure of Men seeking power.

And the Church hasn't produced a shred of evidence in 5000 years except 30 different versions of his "Divine Teaching" - I mean really?

Case closed in my book. The evidence is there if you really look.

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Quote (Ylem122 @ Jul 29 2014 10:49am)
I made these in paint using an einstien picture i found online.

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Good quotes I had to look them up. Einstein did believe the historical aspects of the Bible.
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Jul 30 2014 04:55am
Quote (Master_Zappy @ Jul 29 2014 05:47pm)
I dont have enough faith to be an atheist, that the universe can  can come from nothing without any kind of will or force. Of course believing in a form of deism is different then believing in a personal god of one of many clearly manmade religious controls that's been provided to us over the centuries.

Ive done a ton of soul searching so to speak in the last few years, read and studied the arguments on both sides of the issues. In the end I'd label myself a agnostic, and the golden rule is the only principle you need for morality.

Here's a good moderated debates on this :


IntelligenceSquared Debates
Death Is Not Final
http://youtu.be/h0YtL5eiBYw


Faith is a flawed idea. Religion bred faith. It consists of blindly believing something with no sort of credible proof, or lack of logic. The second you open your mind to accept other ideas that have a logical premise, atheism goes from taboo to the only true option.
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Jul 30 2014 09:06am
I've always been an atheist, personally, but there's one reflection I remember vividly, for whatever reason, that I always think of when I come back to the question of God and whatnot. I was walking home one day and in the parking lot of my college and I was just thinking to myself, "this is all reality, the 'real world', is there really some supreme Being behind all this" and I answered to myself "no". It was, to my mind, wholly inconceivable that there's some omnipotent Being out there at the root of everything. Just consider, every little fucking thing you see every day of your life has some explanation to it, every little thing that at one time was a source of wonderment to human Beings, fire, mountains, lightning, etc., everything has some explanation that we can observe. It's like Freud argued, religion and God are useful to human beings, as a transition from this state of wonderment (I'm using my own words and poorly paraphrasing his own line of bullshit) to a more mature, organized state of being at which point we really need to grow the fuck up and abandon it as it has no use.

I shouldn't say that, it has a use, as a comfort, as a form of security, in the same way group therapy or meditation might, but it does not command my respect on some higher level. Just be fucking honest with yourselves. Of course a world where there's a righteous God behind everything is probably preferable, it solves a lot of problems for everybody, and I find that incentive is enough to cause people to live their entire lives believing in God but for fuck's sake be honest with yourselves.
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