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#41
Aug 9 2012 05:04pm
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Experience has taught me that the more you read and look into something, the more things you discover along the way


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Aug 9 2012 05:05pm
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Number 3: contradictions is easily disputed. It is quite obviously a difference in specificity in each of the Gospels, in both cases presented, not a legitimate contradiction.


How are they not legitimate contradictions? You're bending over backwards to defend Christianity.
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#43
Aug 9 2012 05:07pm
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So many things to address. I think I'll do this at my leisure, piecemeal.

Golgotha is outside the walls of Jerusalem, but is still at Jerusalem, not some other city. So Jesus still died at Jerusalem.

The Bible says "He rose again on the third day." It doesn't say He stayed dead for 3 days. The passion began on Maundy Thursday (night), and the crucifixion on Good Friday (the first day). On the third day - Easter Sunday, He rose again.

"Evidence 1": normally =/= can't. Keep in mind Jesus was flogged prior to crucifixion.

"Evidence 2" how can that be? Adrenaline.

"Evidence 3" stabbing a body at the midpoint, with half of the body's mass (and blood) above the wound allows for bleeding.

"Evidence 4": see #1.

"Evidence 5": a body begins to relax from rigor mortis after roughly 12 hours. Nevermind the fact that a body doesn't have to be limber to be anointed.

"Evidence 6-12" I guess you don't understand that Jesus is one with the Holy Spirit even before His death.


don't encourage this...
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#44
Aug 9 2012 05:09pm
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How are they not legitimate contradictions? You're bending over backwards to defend Christianity.


Well it's simple, really. We have
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Matt 28:1
Earthquake, then an Angel came down to roll the stone

Mark 16:4
Stone rolled away, and one man sitting inside the tomb

Luke 24:2-4
Stone rolled away, and two men standing outside the tomb

John 20:1,12
Stone rolled away, and two Angels inside the tomb


So, there was an earthquake, an angel came down to roll away the stone while two men stood outside and watched, and inside was a man and two angels. Yep.
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Aug 9 2012 05:09pm
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don't encourage this...


Well, he said he wanted logic, and I love logic. :)
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#46
Aug 9 2012 05:13pm
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lol this copy/paste is quite humorous.  I wanted to stop when I read "died for original sin", but then I actually stopped when I read that "because Mary referred to the dead body of Jesus as "him" rather than "it".. it must be false".  lol. 

Thanks for all the evidence!


confirmation bias much

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It is funny to think that there are people out there arguing about this stuff citing these things for evidence.

You guys should just read Carl Sagan.


http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2012/08/08/carl-sagan-message-to-mars/

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http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z333/Nefariouspat/flammenwerfer.jpg


LOL
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#47
Aug 9 2012 05:16pm
Quote (AEtheric @ Aug 9 2012 07:05pm)
How are they not legitimate contradictions? You're bending over backwards to defend Christianity.


I just explained how they weren't.
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#48
Aug 9 2012 05:20pm
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I just explained how they weren't.


You mean the incredibly vague part of the sentence that says something about the specificity of the gospels? If they are to be accounts of Jesus' life, death, and resurrection, then they must not contradict one another.
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#49
Aug 9 2012 05:21pm
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You mean the incredibly vague part of the sentence that says something about the specificity of the gospels? If they are to be accounts of Jesus' life, death, and resurrection, then they must not contradict one another.


Yes, that part.
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Aug 9 2012 05:22pm
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Yes, that part.


Yeah, that part didn't really say anything. These are legitimate contradictions.
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