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Aug 7 2012 03:01am
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There was no guarantee that kid would have been put up for adoption or adopted if it was.

This way the taxpayers are definitely off the hook for someone else's fuck up.        Sounds pretty responsible to me.


There is like a SIX YEAR wait to adopt a kid in the us right now demand is so high.
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Aug 7 2012 06:56am
It is less dangerous for a woman's health to have an abortion than it is to have a baby.

Also, abortion isn't mentioned in the Bible so it must be okay.

Try hanging your tree swing on an acorn and tell me how it goes.

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Aug 7 2012 07:07am
really?

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It is less dangerous for a woman's health to have an abortion than it is to have a baby.
Also, abortion isn't mentioned in the Bible so it must be okay.

Try hanging your tree swing on an acorn and tell me how it goes.


Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- Hosea 9:14

The priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. ...
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. -- Numbers 5:21-21, 27-28



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Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- Hosea 9:14

The priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. ...
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. -- Numbers 5:21-21, 27-28


I said abortion, not miscarriage. I know that is nature's way of abortion but this topic is about the medical procedure.

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The Bible never specifically mentions abortion. This is significant, because herbal abortifacients--most notably pennyroyal and silphium--were in common use at the time that the New Testament was written. Jesus, Paul, and the other major figures of the New Testament were surrounded by cultures that practiced abortion, but no specific condemnation of the practice can be found in the Bible.

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/abortion/f/bible_abortion.htm

Feel free to find verses that other people have never found abortion in before though ;)


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I said abortion, not miscarriage.  I know that is nature's way of abortion but this topic is about the medical procedure.


How is it a miscarriage when god wills it? Wouldn't that pretty much be a forced abortion? And even if God didn't explicitly say 'abortion is bad, mkay?' he showed by example that it's OK to abort babies.
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How is it a miscarriage when god wills it? Wouldn't that pretty much be a forced abortion? And even if God didn't explicitly say 'abortion is bad, mkay?' he showed by example that it's OK to abort babies.


That is desperate lol.


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That is desperate lol.


How so?
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How so?


By conflating miscarriage and abortion.
Carl Lewis leap of Logic award stuff there.

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By conflating miscarriage and abortion.
Carl Lewis leap of Logic award stuff there.


Oh, so if I punch a pregnant woman in the stomach it's a miscarriage and not an abortion?
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