Oh god noes, not the palestianian rockets!
You have a higher chance of being killed by a vending machine than you do by a qassam.

Meanwhile palestinians have a 100% chance of having their way of life destroyed and oppressed by the state occupying theirs!

The only problem with your thearoy is the difference in perceptions while we are trying to work with our logic they have theirs.
You see a guy like Goomshill is 100% sure Israel is bored and just want to kill civilians for fun and some other nonesence he have in mind.
Its true that Iran rattle saber's on the news but havn't they showed us already that they will do anything for their cause?

I still believe that you are right I am just trying to show you that there are other things in the equation.



Its funny cause we are not occupying anything in Gaza we left that area and we still provide with electricity which they should pay for.
and the area's that are occupied are on the other side on the west bank, but for some reason they are quite there while on Gaza they go nuts.

You already told me that joke about vending machine, the only problem with your theory is simply the fact that vending machine doesn't aim to kill you and therefore it doesn't scare you.
Rockets do scared you and in the southern area of Israel people are scared to death, this is not an acceptable situation.



This post was edited by Many_Names on Mar 10 2012 06:32pm

isreali vending machine deaths: 0

More lies from goomshill to support his flawed arguments.

See, thats the problem. I recognize you for what you are- a bigoted, overly simplified black and white view of the world through your pathetic ignorance and hatred.
You can reduce anyone who opposes you into "terrorists" and "terrorist sympathizers", dehumanize them and use it as an excuse to slaughter them.

I oppose anyone who slaughters. You aren't introducing "anything to the equation", you're trying to justify massacres and underhanded tactics
In your twisted world view, you think its alright to conduct terrorism, assassination and false flag operations if they only remotely serve your interests of "protection"

In reality, the more Israel indiscriminately kills, the less safe it becomes. It is possible to seek peaceful ends to these conflicts, like how the troubles were ended.
But Israel is completely shitting over any move towards peace.




I don't believe you fuckers kill anyone simply because you're "bored", I believe you kill them because you're delusional and stuck in a fear-driven self-reaffirming circle of violence, which is exactly what you are.
Meanwhile, you dehumanize people like me and think that we have feebleminded views of the world. I see all sides of you and your conflict. You see nothing but card board cutouts you have constructed in your own mind.

Vending Machine Deaths since 1978: 72+
Qassam Rocket Deaths since 1978: 28

Not to mention the rocket attacks didn't begin until 2001. You post nothing but misinformation and lies. It's shameful really.

First of all your definiton of terrorism is wrong "Terrorism is a usage a violence against civilians in order to achieve political goals"
2. Israel always react to the situation which I believe is a problematic way of doing things, in my opinion we should be more active in the area.
3. I am not bigoted and I do not simplfy anything by black and white views, I just encounter you before and you simply have no clue what you are talking about.
4. A massacre is the general and unnecessary slaughter of members of one group by one or more members of another more powerful group. A massacre may be indiscriminate or highly methodical in application. The massacred group may be humans or animals. A massacre is a single event, though it may occur during the course of an extended campaign or war. A massacre is separate from a battle (an event in which opposing sides fight), but may follow in its immediate aftermath, when one side has surrendered or lost the ability to fight, yet the victors persist in killing their opponents. I didn't know Hamas and Jihad lost their will to fight and surrended I didn't know we won the campaign
5. Israel aint "Shitting" on any move towards peace there are always pre talks about vital issues and there are many agreements which I believe won't be solved without help from the outside and I am not talking about the US, I am talking about none baised country that will be in the middle.


Now to put this dumb argument to an end I am pretty sure I wasn't fantasizing the rockets that flied above my head this entire week end.

We do not fear them, they are weak and we can destroy them within a blink of an eye, we simply choose not to.
I am sorry if you feel I dehumanzie you that wasn't the intention I just think you are biased simply because you are running an anti Israel campaign in every topic that someone opens here.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Mar 10 2012 07:04pm

So you fear the rockets, or you don't? You don't mind the rockets? You point to the people killed by Qassams and say they are no joke, then you say they're no problem and you have no fear of them?
I know you better than you know yourself. You are driven through fear, fear that is inherent to all tyrants- one of self preservation, of being toppled, of the enemies you have made.

And through your fear, you are capable of rationalizing the illogical and unethical. To brush aside atrocities and terrorism committed by the state, in the name of assuaging your fears in the near term.
But the irony is simple; your inhumane methods are the same ones that create more enemies to fear, that earn you more ire, and continue the self destructive cyclical conflict.
Your collective fear; your willingness to abdicate the moral high ground, the purity of arms, in the names of self defense, is your greatest weakness in defense.

You cannot shield yourself from the world with walls, bulldozers, checkpoints and 'iron domes'. Because every day, those walls will grow in on you tighter.
Iran will get the bomb. It is a question of when, and how, not if. And as the technology and capacity of everyone in the conflict scales to singularity, your position becomes untenable.

It could be 20 years. It could be 100. It could be 5. But unless Israel can actually pursue a peace accord and integration as Ireland did, you will disintegrate- and no, Israel will not come out on top.



I would have far more against Iran than Israel, were Iran in the position of power. I have no bias in the matter- I hate every single race, government, creed, ethnicity, etc.
I am no more "pro-iran" than I am pro-oppression, pro-murder, pro-tyrants, pro-misogyny and pro-theocracy.
But I, unlike you, hate Iran for what Iran actually is; instead of a deluded propagandized dehumanized straw man of an image.



I see a world full of very sick, delusional people, inflamed through propaganda and ignorant rhetoric, driven through hate and fear, through a media slant and false flags. And they clutch their two deadliest tools; in one hand the gun, in the other fist their vote. So when everyone is fucked in the head, who is there to hate more, to rail against? Those with the more guns, the more deadly, those with the bigger say, the stronger vote. Israeli's aren't any particularly more erratic and insane than their arab brothers, but the killing is almost entirely one-directional.

You are seriously delusional if you think Israel is going to allow Iran to get a nuke.

And what are they going to do to stop it?
Iran is almost an equal fight to Israel on its own, and America would rather collectively chop off their own dicks than go to war again.
And because Iran fortified their facilities into mountains and so deep underground that nothing short of tactical nukes could hit it, surgical missiles are useless.

Iran will get the bomb, and Israel can't stop it. They could engage in World War 3, but thats about it.
The only thing else they could do is delay it as much as possible- which is exactly what they're doing, trying to sabotage it and brutally assassinate scientists



America can stop Iran from getting the nuke, Israel can't


The best Israel can pull right now is to try more america-based false flag attacks instigated by Iranians.
Which is, by the way, exactly what they've done, and are building up to do again.
I wouldn't be surprised if in the near future, "iranians" attack a major target in the US and pull another 9/11

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 10 2012 09:03pm