haha, why do you lie to yourself
your nationalistic "pride" is just self-delusion.

Let me recap how 1948 went. Arabs and Jews started fighting. Neither had weapons because the british took them away while they were in control.
The jews send people to europe and america, buy massive amounts of rifles, tanks, planes, grenades, explosives, mostly american weapons. The arabs are stuck unarmed.
The zionists celebrate by massacring unarmed civilians, mostly women and children (think Deir Yussin), and won a war where they had american weapons and the arabs had shit.
What a compelling victory- a "purity of arms" by slaughtering unarmed women and children, a glorious war to celebrate, right?

Don't delude yourself. Uzi's and Galils don't win wars. American fighter planes, American bombers, American bombs, American bulldozers, American missiles, American helicopters, American nukes.
For one, your "purity of arms" is the most ironic orwellian doublespeak in the world (israel being famous for massacring unarmed civilians *every single year* for the past 60 years)
For two, theres no pride to have of "brave jewish soldiers marching to victory". Theres no bravery in slaughtering unarmed women and children. There was no fair fight, there was never a risky war.
Just American pawns against the soviet union, in a long drawn out cold war. Now the puppets become the puppet masters, and plead their case to keep existing.


But come now, I understate it- israeli massacres aren't a "yearly" thing, they're more like "daily".
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Dozens-Shot-Injured-Near-Israel-Gaza-Border--121853324.html

But of course, the zionist spin department, those brave pure-of-arms soldiers responsible for telling us that rachel corrie was a whore slut arab terrorist, and for saying that the gaza peace flotilla was full of (planted) weapons, were again hard at work:
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=220656

Ah look at that, apparently you're "defending your borders"
Apparently its kosher to shoot anyone who *tries* to cross your border (before they make it across- shooting them on someone else's sovereign territory).
I haven't heard of FBI agents setting up miniguns to mow down mexicans on their side of the border before, maybe you should bring this concept to America.

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 15 2011 11:27am

We had 3 organization here on 1948 the Hagana, Lehi and the Hetzel which had weapons I can actually name them:
Sten guns, Mills grenades, Karabiner 98k (Czech copies), Bren Guns, MG-34 Machine guns, Thompson submachine guns, Lee Enfield rifles, Molotov cocktails, PIAT anti-tank infantry weapon
Thompson Submachine guns are the only American weapons we had the rest we got from the british for money just like the Arabs did.

Egypt, Sudan, Syria, Jordan, Lebanan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Holy War Armies, Yemen, Arab Liberation Army and the Muslim Brother Hood Tried to demolish us and they almost did.
They had more man power more weapons they attacked us from all borders to be honest I have no idea how we won besides their stupidity.
Arabs AirCrafts: Spitfires, T-6 Texans, C-47 Dakotas, Hawker Hurricanes, Avro Ansons
Israeli AirCrafts:Spitfires, Avia S-199s,Flying Fortresses, P-51 Mustangs, C-47 Dakotas

Artillery:
Arabs: Mortars, 15 cm sIG33 auf Pz IIs, 25 mm anti-tank guns on Bren carriers, improvised self-propelled guns used by Syrians in 1948-49, 65 mm mountain guns on Lorraine 38L chenillettes, 2-pounder anti-tank guns, 6-pounder anti-tank guns.
Israel: Mortars, 2 inch British mortars, 65 mm French howitzers (Napoleonchiks), 120 mm French mortars, Davidka mortars <---- HOME MADE WEAPON

APC's:
Arabs: British World War II era trucks, Humber Mk III & IV, Automitrailleuses Dodge of the Bich type, improvised armored cars/trucks, Marmon-Herrington Armoured Cars, Universal Carriers, Lloyd Towing Carriers
Israel: British World War II era trucks, improvised armored cars/trucks, White M3A1 Scout Cars, Daimler Armoured Cars, M3 and M5 Half-tracks

Tanks:
Arabs: Matilda tanks, R-39s, FT-17s, R35s, Panzer IVs (dug in and used stationarily by Egypt),M13\40Sherman M 4,M-22,Vickers MK-6.
Israel: Cromwell tanks, H39s, Sherman M4

In other words both sides had weapons they weren't that poor as you think.

$1.3 billion to develop the Lavi aircraft (cancelled)
$625 million to develop and deploy the Arrow anti-missile missile (an ongoing project)
$200 million to develop the Merkava tank (operative); the latest version, the Merkava 4, uses a German V-12 diesel engine produced under license in the U.S. by General Dynamics
$130 million to develop the high-energy laser anti-missile system (ongoing).


64,744 M-16A1 rifles
2,469 M-204 grenade launchers
1,500 M-2 .50 caliber machine guns
.30 caliber, .50 caliber, and 20mm ammunition

50x F-4E Phantoms
98x F-15 Eagle
237x F-16 Fighting Falcon

42x AH-64 Apache
57x Cobra
38x CH-53D Sea Stallion
25x Blackhawks

AGM 65 Maverick
AGM 114 Hellfire
TOW
AIM 7 Sparrow
AIM 9 Sidewinder
AIM 120 B AMRAAM
Patriot
Harpoon Anti-Ship Missile

$81.3 Billion Overall






And you need all that to kill 18 year old kids armed with rocks?





The reason you don't know why they won is becomes you're only subject to brainwashing from a propaganda machine.
Everywhere else in the world, everyone knows its because of american/european intervention in arms.

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 15 2011 11:51am

Goomshill its seems you lost your patients how can you call 5 nations and 4 armies kids with rocks?
$1.3 billion to develop the Lavi aircraft (cancelled)
$625 million to develop and deploy the Arrow anti-missile missile (an ongoing project) we didn't deploy any of these yet it is a defensive weapon.
$200 million to develop the Merkava tank (operative); the latest version, the Merkava 4, uses a German V-12 diesel engine produced under license in the U.S. by General Dynamics the uses the same thing aren't they?
$130 million to develop the high-energy laser anti-missile system (ongoing). we develope the lasr but it seems we won't see this weapon here, if we did we could just sit back and relaxx.
ALL AFTER 1973.

This post was edited by Many_Names on May 15 2011 11:56am

Goomshill I invite you to my home and I am not kidding, anytime you want, you can meet my Arabs naibours across the street you guys got the impression we are fighting here all day long its Twisted.
Come here and see how we live and I will show you who does the problems.

all of this information can also be found at ifamericansknew.org/stats/cost_of_israel.html
i just didnt feel like typing it all out..

Yes but what is your point??

There is a certain level of fighting going on there though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7817044.stm

This was from early 2009, I would tend to believe their is a certain level of animosity in that area.

But you should make separation between the Arabs who lives among us and the Arabs who lives in Gaza.
there is a problem on the areas around the Gaza Strip they just want stop aiming Civilians so after 8 years our Prime Minister Unleashed the Israeli army.

Today if they shoot rockets we bomb the area they shoot from.


This post was edited by Many_Names on May 15 2011 12:09pm