the USA is not being hostile...

and the point i was making shows your bias since Canada has done very similar things like the US has, like travel bans, and you dont say Canada is being hostile...

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jun 15 2026 09:33am

No, what we have here is, i highlighted that the US was discriminating based on nationality, and your response was to go rambo.
conflating criticism with racism is unfounded.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 15 2026 09:38am

thats only one of the 2 truths i speak of...

does the US have a travel ban on Canadians? do you think its because they are Canadian or because Canada breeds a really low number of terrorists?

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jun 15 2026 09:40am

read everything i posted in this topic and you will have your answer, its all in what was already posted.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 15 2026 09:47am

right, but Canada didnt allow access to these same individuals and is on the hunt for 700+ Iranians which are to be deported given their ties with the IRGC, but were not hostile right? lol
hypocrisy at its finest... just ignore Canadian ice doing its job, lol id have less of an issue with anti-american rhetoric is it was atleast consistent

Ferdia, im curious, do you have an issue with Russia being excluded from various games? is it ok to discriminate against Russia?

i mean, its not like the US and Iran are currently at war with each other or anything....

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jun 15 2026 09:58am

1. You said: Canada didnt allow access to these same individuals

This is a Lie. As an example, The US didnt allow Omar Abdulkadir Artan into America (the Somali Referee), but Canada made no such decision.

2. You said: do you have an issue with Russia being excluded from various games? is it ok to discriminate against Russia?

My response is: Where a country commits crimes against humanity, war crimes, the international community should sanction said country. Where the International community does not sanction said country, I am in favour of individual organisations taking matters into their own hands, and sanctioning said country, in the absence of sovereign states not enforcing international laws. It is problematic when International Law is eroded.

To expand on this, as you have outlined, the US and Iran are currently at war. It is normal for the US, in such circumstances, to be careful when hosting an international event which includes Iran.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 15 2026 10:30am

so the numbers of 10,000 to 40,000 Iranians killed by their government in just this past January wasnt a crime against humanity? lol



the ref didnt try to enter Canada, and most likely will not be granted access. heres a line from the NP...

"and it’s also not a guarantee that Artan would pass the screening protocols of the Canada Border Services Agency. Canadian border guards are known to reject entry to foreign nationals who have been denied U.S. visas."

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jun 15 2026 10:37am

and how would a country do this without discrimination?

looks to me like you just can not pass up an opportunity to call the US racist...

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jun 15 2026 10:42am

i made a brief add on to my previous post, ill repeat it here in case you missed it : To expand on this, as you have outlined, the US and Iran are currently at war. It is normal for the US, in such circumstances, to be careful when hosting an international event which includes Iran.

The numbers of 10,000 to 40,000, Iranians kills by their government, was a claim published in Time Magazine. Actually let me put it another way: In December of last year an economic attack was carried out by the US and Israel against Iran, attempting to destabilise its currency and its government. This was after the US and Israel bombed Iran last year in retaliation for Oct 7th which was in part funded by Iran. Anyway, Iran originally stated that some 2700 protestors were killed in the protests. This was later revised upwards to 3117 killed. When you attempt to carry out a coup against a Government, it comes with risks, especially in Iran. Independent Human Rights agencies had a figure of 4500 killed. The figure of 40,000 is from Time Magazine which posted an article at the time. It was in effect a pretext for the US to Bomb Iran, and the US and Israel said they carried out all these bombing, economic attack, further bombings to...save the Iranian people from the Gov of Iran. Yes you heard that right, that is the narrative we were given. The timing of the pretext was problematic noting Israel had not fully resupplied their military from 2025 so they asked the US to hold off a few months prior to the 2026 joint bombing of Iran, at which point a lot more people died, in Iran, by US and Israeli Bombs. Should I mention the girls primary school that the US dropped bombs on, killing literally everyone in the school?

So when you talk about Crime Against Humanity, it gets complicated very very fast. If a foreign Gov, say Russia, influenced America, and had your leader assassinated, caused your Gov to collapse, and there were mass riots, and deaths, do you blame the Gov for killing the protestors, do you blame the protesters for protesting or do you blame the foreign state that set the wheels in motion?



I did not call the US racist, i said it (the US Government) was discriminating against certain nations. These are not the same thing. Also by America, or the US, I presume you are referring to the current US or American Gov, and not its people, noting in debate when we say things like "Israel" we mean the current Gov, and not the entire population of Israel. ditto for the US. context and language matter. The western world likes America. It does not like the current administration because the current administration has done little for us to like. This does not mean that we hate America.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 15 2026 11:04am

so the US has all the right to discriminate, and is doing so for reasons other than racism, but they are hostile? lol

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jun 15 2026 11:05am