because your post is far too rigid. you said there can be no acceptable consequences of your speech otherwise it isn't free. criticism of your speech is a consequence of speech, that is an acceptable retaliation to your speech.

we all know in reality there are acceptable consequences for speech, and there are unacceptable ones, and there's a LOT of consequences that are debatable in how acceptable they are.

if you get caught on video screaming the N word at a 90 year old black woman on the subway you shouldn't be shot in the face, that's something almost everyone agree one, but you also are open to being fired from your job. that's something most people agree on too. you can't impose a massive burden on your employer just because you have the freedom to do what you did.

A bright future cut short is tragic regardless of politics. Whether someone agreed with him or not is a separate discussion.

A bright future cut short is tragic regardless of politics. Whether someone agreed with him or not is a separate discussion.



The problem isn't acknowledging consequences. The problem is pretending every consequence is automatically justified because someone exercised their speech.

Well you see I happen not to be a lady or a child, so I don't consider someone's words a "consequence" or "retaliation", as they are not injurious.

The yelling at a black lady scenario is fun. If you aren't representing your company when you say a thing, it is illogical for someone to assume the thing you said is representative of the company. Therefore, having not represented your employer, your employer should not suffer as a result of your words. Of course despicable people who do not support free speech will always exercise whatever power they have to harm or threaten the employer until the employee is fired. This is the greater injustice by far.

I work with some guys who are wildly racist, hate the jews, everything. I don't care and why would I? Having great opinions is not a part of the job description. If they bother me while I'm working that's another story but on their own time they can say whatever they want, obviously, because I'm not psychotic.

We just went through an entire decade of people being fired from their jobs and subsequently being erased from public life for voicing opinions that didn't vibe with the tastes and preferences of the upper-middle-class when it came to topics such as race and gender. It's weird to see people still support this. And it's even weirder to see people suggest that the correct punishment for an individual violating these preferred tastes is to be barred from having a bourgeois job that provides comfortable living standards lol

i say whats the most frighting is the delight the left has when things like this happens. its like looking into the face of evil. ya i think the left by n large is sinister evil

let me add when a leftie gets hurt or killed. it gives me no satisfaction, it saddens me.

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 9 2026 12:37am

y'all think his widowed wife has anything to do with his death?
some of teasstuffs fav 'journalists' seem to believe that strongly.

can u imagine that? u r left alone behind with 2 kids and then half of your movement turns against u
if it wasnt for the hateful left that wud have never happened!!!

If a black lady with a prestigious job yells at a average white person, almost no problems. Happened to me believe it or not. If you react, you are not culturally adverse. I have F YOU money now though.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jun 9 2026 05:27am

in the racist job scenario even if we reduced the "consequences" down to people just calling that employers to use their free speech to tell them they shouldnt employ a racist eventually most employers would cave just to get rid of the problem. obviously people who are making threats on the employer or things like that are wildly out of line. but even people using calm free speech is going to result in a firing still.



just like with #metoo the initial things are usually not a problem, the problem is people thinking they have a new tool to be nasty. so just like people tried to cancel aziz ansari for basically just being an awkward guy on a date, people also tried to cancel people for racial things that were not really a problem. like someone calls a black lady ghetto or a college kid has dreads in his hair.

but free speech is the same, like we all for the most part support it as a concept but dont advise people use it in a wide variety of ways. we might not want them jailed, but all recognize many people exercising free speech on both sides of the aisle are just complete idiots.

You have people rioting and protesting to free a criminal because he has the same skin color as them. It's all upside down.