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Jun 2 2026 05:45am
in this context I am referring to an authority that has the true understanding of holy tradition both oral and written and how he knows it is the case.

if we say there is a possibility of misunderstanding text we must necessarily say there is a true understanding of the text, which would mean there is some normative authority that maintains this holy tradition.

the position he has is incoherent because he simultaneously claims there is no normative authority while claiming there are correct or incorrect interpretations


I think human beings are flawed. I don't think consexual mature samesex anything is offensive to Christ. In my personal walk with Christ more emphasis has been placed on the unity of the family unit. Not for trivial matters but for the survival of the family.
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06:45am,690529835,109245233 I don't think consexual mature samesex anything is offensive to Christ.

It doesn’t matter what you think. Scripture is perfectly clear on the matter. There’s nothing to address. Nothing is being misinterpreted. It’s very clearly outlined as a sin, & highlighted as one that in doing so, they will not inherit the kingdom of God.
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Jun 2 2026 12:54pm
It doesn’t matter what you think. Scripture is perfectly clear on the matter. There’s nothing to address. Nothing is being misinterpreted. It’s very clearly outlined as a sin, & highlighted as one that in doing so, they will not inherit the kingdom of God.


So the idea I'm trying to present is scripture is false and relationship is the only way, which is exactly what Scripture says.

We are able to do horrible physical damage (think rape) and inflect mental damage which might never heal.

But 2 people laying with each other is the worst thing. This of all things will get a person cast into the lake of fire. It doesn't make sense, at least to me.

I personally am not going to be moved from that view. Because there is always something more horrifically worse than a same sex relationships which the Bible is eerily quiet about.

To me same same sex is a non issue. I'm happy and confident in making this case...which is widely unaccepted.
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So the idea I'm trying to present is scripture is false and relationship is the only way, which is exactly what Scripture says.

We are able to do horrible physical damage (think rape) and inflect mental damage which might never heal.

But 2 people laying with each other is the worst thing. This of all things will get a person cast into the lake of fire. It doesn't make sense, at least to me.

I personally am not going to be moved from that view. Because there is always something more horrifically worse than a same sex relationships which the Bible is eerily quiet about.

To me same same sex is a non issue. I'm happy and confident in making this case...which is widely unaccepted.


you are suffering prelest, thinking you have the authority on truth and morality not God. in humility, seek help as you are under severe delusion

This post was edited by majorblood on Jun 2 2026 02:35pm
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There are lot of "I" and "Me" in here. The argument against homosexuality, aside from scripture plainly describing how it's a sin, is the logical conclusion of what it really means. The act is essentially saying that the order of creation is wrong. My will be done. Very dangerous thinking if you call yourself a Christian.
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This post is a violation of the site rules and appropriate action was taken.

So the idea I'm trying to present is scripture is false and relationship is the only way, which is exactly what Scripture says.

We are able to do horrible physical damage (think rape) and inflect mental damage which might never heal.

But 2 people laying with each other is the worst thing. This of all things will get a person cast into the lake of fire. It doesn't make sense, at least to me.

I personally am not going to be moved from that view. Because there is always something more horrifically worse than a same sex relationships which the Bible is eerily quiet about.

To me same same sex is a non issue. I'm happy and confident in making this case...which is widely unaccepted.


Oh, so you're completely retarded. Okay.
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Oh, so you're completely retarded. Okay.


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I didnt report you. I'm fine with your point of view.
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you are suffering prelest, thinking you have the authority on truth and morality not God. in humility, seek help as you are under severe delusion


This word prelest does not apply to me. I've listed examples as a way to measure something, but you haven't said anything about those other examples.
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Jun 3 2026 11:33am
if there is no normative authority then it's just your opinion. it has no value if it has no authority

there is no "misinterpreting" because that necessarily implies there is a correct interpretation thus a normative authority

your position is incoherent


You are just not getting it, and you are wrong. I will list a fact for you.

Fact: The Bible has been misinterpreted for centuries regarding our planet. I have already listed the verses in my previous reply here. That was my entire point in bringing up that point in history.

Isaiah 55:8-9 states, "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways."
Proverbs 3:5 encourages us to "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding."
In Job 38:2-4 God asks Job where he was when the foundations of the earth were laid, highlighting human ignorance.

Nothing incoherent about that at all. And I listed these 3 verses to remind you how little you know. How little we all know. You're telling me I'm incoherent and that I just don't understand, thus implying that you know more than I do. You don't, and that is another fact.
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