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Dec 17 2024 10:58am
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 17 2024 11:51am)
The angst / nihilism / self-loathing / loathing-of-world / fatalism / adoration of shooters / etc are all perfectly in line with plenty of male school shooters / serial killers from the past, all that is perfectly normal and doesn't register on a political/ideological level no matter what affiliation or radical views are espoused. For all the self-destructive kids with emotional problems, at least some small % of them will kill someone else instead of just themselves.

But am I right in thinking this is the very first mass school shooter who is straight/cis female? ever? We've had the tranny/whatever ones (FtM?) in at least a couple cases, but my googlefu isn't turning up any examples of female school shooters without including the shit anti-gun activists use to pad statistics (ie, "someone brandished a gun in a parking lot across from a school" = school shooting. I think we all know what we're talking about with columbine-esque mass shooting attacks)
I mean there's very few such school shootings total in US history, so it wouldn't surprise me. I think this might be the first female one


Why do you use the term CIS? It's a female. Anything that ain't a male and female just ain't. No need to add new words to represent what's normal.
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Why do you use the term CIS? It's a female. Anything that ain't a male and female just ain't. No need to add new words to represent what's normal.


What word would you use to make the distinction between a trans/nonbinary/alphabet female who could be either MtF or FtM, and someone who is just female?
one of the previous school shooters was ftm
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What word would you use to make the distinction between a trans/nonbinary/alphabet female who could be either MtF or FtM, and someone who is just female?
one of the previous school shooters was ftm


someone unstable.
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Internet chatter.

It has *not* yet been confirmed that she was not transgender, queer, or under the LBGTQ++ umbrella. The only thing confirmed so far is that she was biologically female. Pretty cute from the pictures too, if only she took a different path, she could have easily found a husband.

"sHe WaSnT tRaNs" is simply factually incorrect at this point with the current official information. Carrying water for far left terrorists is a bad look and shows clear bias

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What word would you use to make the distinction between a trans/nonbinary/alphabet female who could be either MtF or FtM, and someone who is just female?
one of the previous school shooters was ftm


You could use something else that isn't a hateful far left-coded slur that causes real harm. You could just call her a girl

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You could use something else that isn't a hateful far left-coded slur that causes real harm. You could just call her a girl


Quote (iLoveMyUsername @ Dec 17 2024 11:08am)
someone unstable.


Like the other thread about the definition of terrorism, its a good time to remind yall that words are just tools to convey mutually intelligible meaning and don't serve a purpose beyond that
If I want to specify that this is the first non-transgender/queer/alphabet/whatever female school shooter, I could say "cis" or "cisgender" and you'd get it. "straight" wasn't really be accurate since that's muddled with trannies and I'd still count the first female school shooter if she was a lesbian anyway. "Non-transgender" would mostly cover it, but there's too much queer rainbow spectrum shit. This is the first regular plain jane
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Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 17 2024 10:51am)
The angst / nihilism / self-loathing / loathing-of-world / fatalism / adoration of shooters / etc are all perfectly in line with plenty of male school shooters / serial killers from the past, all that is perfectly normal and doesn't register on a political/ideological level no matter what affiliation or radical views are espoused. For all the self-destructive kids with emotional problems, at least some small % of them will kill someone else instead of just themselves.

But am I right in thinking this is the very first mass school shooter who is straight/cis female? ever? We've had the tranny/whatever ones (FtM?) in at least a couple cases, but my googlefu isn't turning up any examples of female school shooters without including the shit anti-gun activists use to pad statistics (ie, "someone brandished a gun in a parking lot across from a school" = school shooting. I think we all know what we're talking about with columbine-esque mass shooting attacks)
I mean there's very few such school shootings total in US history, so it wouldn't surprise me. I think this might be the first female one


Id agree this is likely the first female school shooter, i certainly dont recall any before her. equality!

still curious to read the post mortem with full details, how she entered the school and yet "only" killed 1 other student and a teacher. if it werent for the fact that several others were injured it reads more like a revenge for something where she targeted those 2. thats of course very unlikely given the internet track record and manifesto she left though.
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after doing a deep dive on her online posts and manifesto im left with just one thought, it's our fault as much as hers.

when you read the words of a young girl who should have angst about common teenage problems (wanting a date to the dance or some offhand comment in the locker room from a classmate) she instead seemed to have a deeply seeded hate for the world. for life and the place she'd someday grow up to be an adult in.

perhaps the rhetoric on both sides of the aisle is to blame. we raise kids to tell them the country is doomed, they'll never have social security but will be destined to pay into it for their whole life. that illegals will come in and rape them and steal their job. that world war 3 is around the corner. that fascism is here again. inflation will destroy the nation and stop them from ever having a fulfilling life. that the world is poisoning them with their food, medicine, and even air. the climate will get so hot we all face food shortages and starvation. that every device they have is just the result of a long string of slavery. to never go online because its a dark place, as we check 4 apps on our phone. that the govt will force them to be trans, and that a trans teacher will molest them.

well, if there's ever a time to remind ourselves that the children listen this is it. if there's ever a time to remember some things are for adults to talk about, and that the very topics we might discuss could act as harbingers of doom for our children's mental state, now is also the time. im going to go home and play ponies with my daughters and tend to my garden and try to remember if i can that the world isn't ending and the very worst thing for them is to think it is. you can live for a time without food or water, without money or a house, but once hope is gone so is your entire future.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 17 2024 09:54am)
Like the other thread about the definition of terrorism, its a good time to remind yall that words are just tools to convey mutually intelligible meaning and don't serve a purpose beyond that
If I want to specify that this is the first non-transgender/queer/alphabet/whatever female school shooter, I could say "cis" or "cisgender" and you'd get it. "straight" wasn't really be accurate since that's muddled with trannies and I'd still count the first female school shooter if she was a lesbian anyway. "Non-transgender" would mostly cover it, but there's too much queer rainbow spectrum shit. This is the first regular plain jane


That is fair, however the usage of the language of the enemy must be tempered, lest we cede more ground to them. Linguistics do matter alot

Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 17 2024 09:54am)
Id agree this is likely the first female school shooter, i certainly dont recall any before her. equality!

still curious to read the post mortem with full details, how she entered the school and yet "only" killed 1 other student and a teacher. if it werent for the fact that several others were injured it reads more like a revenge for something where she targeted those 2. thats of course very unlikely given the internet track record and manifesto she left though.


Audrey Hale (a girl, woman) murdered kids & teachers at a Christian school just a year and a half ago. Memory holed already?

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