I'll say it every single time. Sometimes power trumps truth. Do you think victims of totalitarian regimes accused of being enemies of the state and consequently sent to either Auschwitz or Siberia were actually guilty of their stated offenses? Do you really think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is at all Democratic or of the people just because their government says so? Sometimes cheaters win, and corrupt governments are very good at hiding evidence, destroying evidence, setting "heads you lose, tales I win" rulesets. That is what happened here. You're just parroting the hilarious theory that 2020 was the cleanest election ever and that Biden is the most popular president of all time because you're entirely fueled by your firmware updates.

No election is clean, both sides engage in shady shit, you are mad because this time your team lost, you do not care about the thousands of ways your team cheats.
This is where we differ, i want to see politics cleaned up, not "May the best cheater win, unless its the other side".

Did you just cite the New York Post like it's a reputable source!?

The New York Post (NY Post) is an American conservative daily tabloid newspaper published in New York City

Idgaf who wins this election but holy shit this thread is hot garbage.

Don’t believe any of those polls.
Vote for Trump or don’t vote at all.

This is not the election to cheat on. There are reasonable odds of civil unrest and civil war if the results of the election are not trusted. My local jurisdiction is definitely more Trump than last cycle, and this is from blue leaning Minnesota.

At least you're admitting that's what it is. Because you're right. When people ask me if Trump won I say no. Biden is the president. Cheating only matters if there's guardrails, ways to rectify it and retroactively reverse any gains rendered on behalf of the cheater. With no such guardrails, the cheater wins. I'm sorry to tell you, you'll never get your wish of cleaning it up, because the face mask is off on the electoral process and how deep the corruption runs. Everyone knows now that if you don't cheat, you'll lose. It's an arm race and taking a moral stand means death.

Both sides are cheating still, why is it OK for trump?

What cheating is needed? When they all for the country club people anyways? lol bothsides are owned or expect to get rich from fellow country club goers anyways.. What war did Trump start? is the question people like to ask when trying say Trump started no wars .Like the cold war.. terrifs on goods so we can't buy buy cheap electric cars from China like the rest of the world and so forth.. or just assassinating Iran's people in Iraq so our troops get bombed by Iran. and say they stoped a attack lol.. Trump is far from a peace maker..And biden is obviosly a war monger also..We all should vote for third or forth parties ..Rather then the same bs we got for the past 60 years

What other news are you going to cite?
There are no proper independent news in the USA and the UK.

that was the NYP link that couldnt get shared in DM and heavily censored, how does it being "not a reputable source" is making the gov overreach around it ok?? it doesnt
but your country dont actually have freedom of press nor freedom of speech

yup, congratz, u read what wikipedia is saying about everyone not part of the american blue elites, everyone and everything not in their special club is considered "dangerous far right and should be hidden cuz a threat to democracy yaddi yadda"


thanks, so are u if u think that hiding a legit story, labelling as far right conspiracy theory everywhere, getting youtube accounts banned just for talking about it
to even prevent people to even share that link in twatter DM??
if u think that giving the RT treatment to news outlets with different views than the cnn/msnbc or whatever and that ONLY the cnn news outlets should be allowed in your country and everything else shouldnt even be allowed
then is not just this thread being hot garbage but so are you for being a shill for authoritarian regimes that "know better than you" and think it's right to actually removes the ability for people to discuss subjects between themselves (couldnt share in twatter DM)

am not even american but the rest of the world has actually more freedom of press and freedom of speech than americans
thats what stockholm syndrome look like tho, being a shill for the regime that actively working against its people and against yourself