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Oct 15 2024 10:51pm
i am pro choice
this doesnt mean i am pro abortion

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Oct 16 2024 06:09am
Quote (ScionCapital @ Oct 15 2024 10:24pm)
I dont care about the rest of the world. Only my country. Close! The! BORDER!


lol if people stop having kids(which is already what's happening) there is no choice but to open the border. America is sitting at 1.6 children per woman, a historic low and far below the rate of replacement. A few generations of this, assuming no major immigration, and there will not be enough working age people to maintain the economy. I hope you aren't against robots taking all of the jobs too or you're just about out of options.




On the original question, I don't have any problem with early term abortion, but obviously if you kill a baby 5 minutes before giving birth, that's murder. I don't know where the line is, that's something that could be reasonably debated, but the fact that at some point between 0 months and 9 months it becomes murder is self-evident.
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Quote (Shadowoffury @ Oct 16 2024 07:09am)
lol if people stop having kids(which is already what's happening) there is no choice but to open the border. America is sitting at 1.6 children per woman, a historic low and far below the rate of replacement. A few generations of this, assuming no major immigration, and there will not be enough working age people to maintain the economy. I hope you aren't against robots taking all of the jobs too or you're just about out of options.




On the original question, I don't have any problem with early term abortion, but obviously if you kill a baby 5 minutes before giving birth, that's murder. I don't know where the line is, that's something that could be reasonably debated, but the fact that at some point between 0 months and 9 months it becomes murder is self-evident.


I can stipulate to that point of view.
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Oct 16 2024 09:42am
the no choice (all lefties) people have devolved into something vicious. im sure we have all noticed that.
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Quote (foxnews @ Oct 15 2024 11:42am)
You could also argue you’re pro pregnancies of minors that are victims or rape… if you want to get to the nitty gritty of it.


Every single example you can think of (there are two, maybe three now) the girl didn’t have to leave the state to get a legal abortion. You are lying, and you are lied to. You are either too lazy to look at the actual laws, willfully ignorant of said laws, or are just plain lying.
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Oct 16 2024 04:02pm
Quote (Beeetlejuice @ 16 Oct 2024 00:51)
i am pro choice
this doesnt mean i am pro abortion


idk anyone who is pro-abortion

abortion sucks, but not having legal access to abortion is way worse

This post was edited by 18nomaUSEast on Oct 16 2024 04:03pm
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idk anyone who is pro-abortion

abortion sucks, but not having legal access to abortion is way worse


somebody understand it

i agree 100%
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Oct 16 2024 04:59pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 16 2024 03:48am)
Ya the 1 in 100 girls who get an abortion after they were raped is not the same as....

Girls who get an abortion or take "the pill" because they want to have unprotected sex with no moral accountability(hence why he said "prochoice" being "everything else").

A society that promotes abortion as being "natural/ok" is void of reality itself. The pill/abortion have terrible negative affects on a woman(especially a young woman's body) and it's disgusting when you really think about it. Just because it's normalized in 1st world nations doesn't magically make it "right".

It's why it's a non-issue in countries that can't afford "birth control" and seen as some liberal privilege in 1st world nations.


Considering that more natural pregnancies end in miscarriage than not i would say abortion IS natural.
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Oct 16 2024 05:05pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 16 2024 03:59pm)
Considering that more natural pregnancies end in miscarriage than not i would say abortion IS natural.


"Considering people die of natural causes, I would say murder IS natural"
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Quote (ScionCapital @ Oct 16 2024 10:04am)
I can stipulate to that point of view.


what
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