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Sep 4 2024 08:33am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 3 2024 05:11pm)
I firmly believe that if your video game is well made, fun and innovative, people will not give a shit about it having identity politics or not.
If its a AAA derivative live service model dead on arrival gigaflop, wokeness is just the excuse both detractors and apologists will latch onto.

The first thing a piece of entertainment needs to have is a hook. You write on a 2 by 6 notecard why anyone should care about your product. What is its unique selling point.
Concord feels like an AI model was asked how to create a profitable cash grab video game by some industry executives and spat out garbage about cartoony brightly colored live service team shooter with loot mechanics, and I say this as someone who has not even bothered to google what concord actually is or seen even a minute of footage, I'm so disinterested in it I don't even know exactly what it is, I just know why it flopped.

Name any successful piece of entertainment, I'll tell you its hook. But a gigaflop like this takes a special level of blandness


they entered one of the most saturated markets in all of video games and brought nothing new but virtuous moral characters for people who are 1% of the population to connect with. and they didnt even do that well, that demographic historically cares a lot about aesthetics, they're the people who still play wow just to collect transmogs. and the skins in the concord game came across as lazy and bland.

its like someone saying "we're going to make a new spicy chicken sandwich, because every restaurant in our town is selling them like crazy. but ours is different, its gonna be so spicy that only a few people can handle it." then they deliver a mcchicken with a few slices of jalapeño.
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Quote (Tarisus @ Sep 4 2024 09:55am)
DEI= Didn’t Earn It.



Woke activist Valentine tried so hard to destroy Black Myth Wukong, this is terrible behavior from the group, even worse Sweet Baby Inc tried to blackmail them. Most of people dont do stuff like this.

Woke games will never be successful, only already popular games may incorporate woke ideas if they wished, but ideas like that is not needed nor it’s healthy.


I mean Stardew valley has alot of representation right? Without doing any research I know Stardew valley has been on and off incredibly popular, you really don't have a leg to stand on in this debate because and I cannot believe I'm saying this, to quote goomshill, inclusion of "woke" does not inherently cause a game to fail but rather the game being bad
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they entered one of the most saturated markets in all of video games and brought nothing new but virtuous moral characters for people who are 1% of the population to connect with. and they didnt even do that well, that demographic historically cares a lot about aesthetics, they're the people who still play wow just to collect transmogs. and the skins in the concord game came across as lazy and bland.

its like someone saying "we're going to make a new spicy chicken sandwich, because every restaurant in our town is selling them like crazy. but ours is different, its gonna be so spicy that only a few people can handle it." then they deliver a mcchicken with a few slices of jalapeño.


I'd like to also add, being that I personally still haven't seen a gameplay footage, that the games advertisement was so poor that I only saw it mentioned as a commercial on twitch after it had come out, and it also was misleading I thought it was only on PlayStation at first because it was a PlayStation ad, before I even saw all the negative stuff I thought to myself "who cares" right there and I'm sure many other people did as well
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The simple facts are that anyone can play a video game, young/old, black/white, male/female and so on, it doesn't matter.

We can all sit down and play a game and enjoy the game world it's called immersion.

When you shove woke crap that people didn't ask for down people's throats that immersion is broken.

That's why woke games and movies receive so much hate. People don't play games or go to a cinema to get lectured on the latest LGBTQ craze.
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Sep 4 2024 02:13pm
Quote (blahaj @ Sep 4 2024 03:05pm)
I'd like to also add, being that I personally still haven't seen a gameplay footage, that the games advertisement was so poor that I only saw it mentioned as a commercial on twitch after it had come out, and it also was misleading I thought it was only on PlayStation at first because it was a PlayStation ad, before I even saw all the negative stuff I thought to myself "who cares" right there and I'm sure many other people did as well


i think people are assuming the beta testing and focus groups they did absolutely flopped pre-release. so the company neglected to advertise to try and stop the losses. im honestly not sure if that makes them look better or worse.

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I mean Stardew valley has alot of representation right? Without doing any research I know Stardew valley has been on and off incredibly popular, you really don't have a leg to stand on in this debate because and I cannot believe I'm saying this, to quote goomshill, inclusion of "woke" does not inherently cause a game to fail but rather the game being bad


agreed, even if stardew had every character being a trans dwarf black asian bisexual person it would be successful. its a wonderfully made game that has almost endless replayability.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Sep 4 2024 02:15pm
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stardew valley is based
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stardew valley is based


Work Hard,
Grow Crops,
Sell Crops for Money,
Build a bigger home and garden.

min max based
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Work Hard,
Grow Crops,
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Build a bigger home and garden.

min max based


reject modernity, embrace tradition

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modernity has o***f**'s s***ting in a bucket.

I reject it.
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Quote (blahaj @ Sep 4 2024 03:56pm)
I mean Stardew valley has alot of representation right? Without doing any research I know Stardew valley has been on and off incredibly popular, you really don't have a leg to stand on in this debate because and I cannot believe I'm saying this, to quote goomshill, inclusion of "woke" does not inherently cause a game to fail but rather the game being bad


I’ve read a lot of comments on these games. The answer is yes and no to woke but to a varying degree. Majority of people don’t mind a little bit of lgbt but you can’t have 2 dudes flirting in every scene, people with roast it if it’s overwhelming.

Most of time it’s hot females that sells and she is typically in commercials movies and video games, but Concord tried to insert an opposite one, people were turned off.

In fact, Diablo 2, uses masculine Amazon and Assassin, people complained big time. They just don’t look like what people wanted.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=85450361&f=148

Most importantly, since woke activists like IGN and Sweet Baby Inc have tried to blackmail popular games, that really enraged people and boycott woke and some will even attack it. Resulting in less people willing to support woke.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Sep 4 2024 05:47pm
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